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The Public Domain Thread

Started by pacman000, May 26, 2019, 09:30:11 AM

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pacman000

So now that most things published in the U.S. before 1923 are in the public domain, let's create a thread of everything which is now free:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/59112/59112-h/59112-h.htm

R. U. R. (ROSSUM'S UNIVERSAL ROBOTS) The play which first used the word "robot" to mean "artificial person."

pacman000

More should be falling into the public domain this year. Know of anything interesting?


Rev. Powell

"Great Gatsby" is the headliner for sure.

Here's a pretty good list:

https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2021/
I'll take you places the hand of man has not yet set foot...

pacman000

#4

pacman000

RATS! Amazing Stories won't start falling into the public domain till next year.  :bluesad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazing_Stories#1920s

Argosy & All Story had some sci-fi stuff tho: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argosy_(magazine)

pacman000

Apparently, the story Freaks (1932) was based on is in the public domain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spurs_(short_story)

Not a new entry this year either; it was published in a magazine in 1923.


Trevor

In South Africa, films fall into the public domain after 50 years and unlike in the USA, copyright can't be renewed.
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

pacman000

Copyrights can't be renewed in the U.S. either, not today.

Copyrights in the U.S. used to last 28 years. They then could be renewed for a second 28-year period. This changed in the 70's when the U.S entered the Berne Convention. Then things get more complicated...

Works published before 1964, I think, fall under the old rules. Works published after that date have their copyright renewed automatically.

In the early 90's, congress decided to let people or groups who own works first published outside the U.S. renew U.S. copyrights on works which had already entered the public domain in the U.S, if said work was still copyrighted in their own country. Say you were in Germany in 1950, & you published a book. It was translated & sold in the U.S. in 1951. Twenty years later, the book's gone out-of-print, so you let the U.S. copyright expire. You could, in theory, petition the courts to renew the copyright on your book. However, if you were in the U.S., & you published a book in the U.S. in 1950, & you let the copyright expire, you cannot petition the courts to renew the copyright.

Is that as clear as mud? I'm talking about things which are above my paygrade & outside my field of expertise.

In the late 90's, the U.S. extended their copyright terms, from 50 years after the death of the author, to 70 years. They could've done so again two years ago, but they didn't. My thoughts: by the late 70's & into the late 90's, most works were made by extremely profitable companies, who could lobby to have copyrights extended, & there wasn't a powerful lobbyist group to oppose them. Today there are some major tech companies who make a lot of money by organizing data, not by creating data, so they'd have their own lobbyist groups working to shorten copyright laws. Again, I'm talking about things which are above my paygrade & outside my field of expertise, so take that with a grain of salt, or a whole salt shaker.   :smile:

claws

Personally I don't get the appeal of public domain movies. Are there rare gems that never aired on TV or made it to video?

Rev. Powell

Quote from: claws on February 27, 2021, 12:48:39 PM
Personally I don't get the appeal of public domain movies. Are there rare gems that never aired on TV or made it to video?


The appeal is that you don't have to pay anyone to use, broadcast, copy, or make transformational art from them.
I'll take you places the hand of man has not yet set foot...

claws

Quote from: Rev. Powell on February 27, 2021, 01:10:57 PM
Quote from: claws on February 27, 2021, 12:48:39 PM
Personally I don't get the appeal of public domain movies. Are there rare gems that never aired on TV or made it to video?


The appeal is that you don't have to pay anyone to use, broadcast, copy, or make transformational art from them.

Well, for me as an average movie watcher/physical media collector those things don't apply to me at all.  :smile:

Rev. Powell

Quote from: claws on February 27, 2021, 02:07:15 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on February 27, 2021, 01:10:57 PM
Quote from: claws on February 27, 2021, 12:48:39 PM
Personally I don't get the appeal of public domain movies. Are there rare gems that never aired on TV or made it to video?


The appeal is that you don't have to pay anyone to use, broadcast, copy, or make transformational art from them.

Well, for me as an average movie watcher/physical media collector those things don't apply to me at all.  :smile:

Other than the fact that resellers who sell you public domain content shouldn't be charging as much, no. You can also stream or download p.d. stuff for free without transgressing anyone's rights.
I'll take you places the hand of man has not yet set foot...

pacman000