Random Statements About Something NOBODY Cares About, the resurrection

[indianasmith]

the whole Trump Russia thing has now and finally been totally debunked. What a shameful episode in our country's history.

All because Hillary couldn't bring herself to apologize to Bernie Sanders over the revelations in the DNC leaks. Good thing she didn't become president and certainly never will

DEBUNKED?  Eight of his campaign staffers were indicted and convicted for illegal contact with Russian assets; Russia fed Wikileaks the Hillary Clinton emails THE DAY AFTER the disastrous Access Hollywood tapes that should have sunk Trump as a candidate forever, every single intelligence agency agrees that Russia flooded U.S. social media with pro-Trump propaganda because they recognized what a destabilizing influence he would be on our country (and BOY were they right!!!), not to mention the Mueller report made it clear that Trump had obstructed justice to prevent them from finding the truth.

The only "shameful episode" here is that a man as utterly vile, mean-spirited, and ignorant as Trump should ever have served as President of the USA.

[LilCerberus]

Yes, a lot of innocent people's lives were destroyed in order to vindicate DC dimocrat's vile, mean-spirited ignorance, as well as the bamster's childish attempt to cripple the incoming administration.

Most of these people were entrapped, and the charges based on dossiers that has been debunked several times, now having criminal charges being brought against the people who created them.
The Law is turning back around on the dims.

[lester1/2jr]

 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/us/politics/igor-danchenko-arrested-steele-dossier.amp.html

Indy -wrong on all counts. DNC leaks were leaked by a rightfully angry source inside the DNC. Mueller report said no collusion. It was all fairy tales for people who couldn't accept  America choosing Trump over Hillary

[indianasmith]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/us/politics/igor-danchenko-arrested-steele-dossier.amp.html

Indy -wrong on all counts. DNC leaks were leaked by a rightfully angry source inside the DNC. Mueller report said no collusion. It was all fairy tales for people who couldn't accept  America choosing Trump over Hillary

I said nothing about DNC leaks.  The Mueller report said that it could not conclusively prove or disprove collusion, because of the obstruction of justice involved; and Clinton's personal emails were fed to Wikileaks by a Russian source. 

[lester1/2jr]

yes you did you said "Russia fed Wikileaks the Hillary Clinton emails THE DAY AFTER the disastrous Access Hollywood tape" the hillary clintons emails were the DNC leaks.


and why were they so negative? because of what was written on them by HILLLARY AND THE DNC about how they screwed over Bernies campaign


'every single intelligence agency agrees that Russia flooded"

yeah like they all agreed Iraq had WMD they were gonna give to al queda and Afghanistan wasnt gonna fall to the Taliban in 2 seconds.  

Alex- negative karma isn't for mild disagreements. No one voted for Trump because of russia and he was never beholden to them in any way. Russia is a foe from decades ago who have nothing to do with anything the whole thing was laughable

[Alex]

The negative karma is for repeating something that was already proven false in a previous conversation. The report did not clear trump.

[lester1/2jr]

no you're the one lying, thats the whole point. the mueller report in fact found no collusion, however you want to spin it. He is not in jail


and more to the point:  Russia never had any sort of hold on trump. He bombed Syria and sanctioned numerous Russian officials. Why would he do that if they were going to release a "pee tape" about him?

Trump did plenty of things in plain sight that anyone can criticize with actual facts

[Alex]

We went over this ground before. The Mueller report specifically stated that it did not exonerate the president. It also said that due to obstruction it was unable to prove there hadn't been collusion (or had been). In no way did it prove him innocent. If you don't believe me, go read it, or just look up the previous argument where parts of it were quoted that prove your position wrong.

[lester1/2jr]

Everyone who has ever been cleared of anything may have actually done their crime. If they couldn't prove it and the person is innocent I don't know if you're American that's how it works here

[Alex]

And where does the report state that it clears him? I mean, I agree with you that if something is cleared then they are cleared, but the report specifically states it does not clear him.

[lester1/2jr]

So what did Trump do? I don't understand. The case against him was that there was blackmail material the form of tapes that would be used against him when he was in office or that Russia and he were working behind the scenes together for him to steal the election. In the end all they found were procedural things relating to the case itself.

[Alex]

Again read the report.

Due to the obstructions Mueller experienced, he wrote he was unable to determine what trump had, or hadn't done. The report did not condemn him, but neither did it clear him. It very specifically stated it did not exonerate him of anything criminal. Since it was an investigation, not a trial I would imagine it would have only provided evidence towards a trial that could have then cleared him, but you'd have an ask someone who is more of an expert in US law. I know in the U.K. if we had a similar investigation, it would then pass the information onto the Crown Prosecution Service, who would then be the ones to decide if there was enough evidence to go to trial (that doesn't say they are guilty or not, merely that there is enough evidence for a trial to determine such).

Personally, I would say obstructing such an investigation is suspicious on its own and points to something to hide, but that is just my view.

[lester1/2jr]

Okay I'll give you that it was an investigation not a trial but it didn't lead to a trial did it?

What do you think you did? That's what I want to know I don't understand

[Alex]

Okay I'll give you that it was an investigation not a trial but it didn't lead to a trial did it?

What do you think you did? That's what I want to know I don't understand

What do I think I did? I don't think I understand your question.

[LilCerberus]

The point of The Steele Dossier, was that EVERBODY who got their slimy little paws on it KNEW it was fake, but they picked it up & went with it anyway!!!!!!
And it ruined a lot of people's lives, not just Trumps'!!!
It's been debunked & disproven a dozen times over, and yet it was STILL being talked about as if it were fact well into the final days of the 2020 election by haughty noozhounds!!!!

It's high time Igor Danchenko went to jail for this!!!