The Crazy SOB Actually Did it!

[Leah]

CAN WE F**KING PLEASE GET BACK TO PUTIN INVADING UKRAINE FOR F**K SAKES?

[RCMerchant]

What worrries me is if they make it a "no fly zone".
Also what happens to Ukraine if someone doesn't stop Russia?
I don't think sanctions are going to do enough. Putin doesn't care if the Russian people starve. That pig is rich.
He's in it for the kicks and jollies.  

[Jim H]

So, when a republican tells a joke, it's not a joke, but when some rich, stuck up "comedian" hates on people, it's supposed to be a joke?

G**D***, your anger & hate have got your sense of humor all screwed up!

Are you confusing RC and Lester, or think they're the same person?  Lester didn't mention political parties, he didn't mention republicans, he didn't mention jokes by other people, he didn't bring up other comedians or politicians of any kind telling jokes, and he said nothing even remotely hateful or angry.  This reads as a total non-sequitur response as a result.

But back to Ukraine...

They're so "bogged down" that they're about to take the capitol after like a week.

They likely will eventually if they keep pushing, but they're not about to.  They're basically talking about sending a bunch more troops into a meat grinder and fail, Ukraine has had too much time to prepare and there aren't enough troops yet to overcome.  They don't even have the city surrounded, just two sides last I looked.  It's going to be a long bloody siege looks like, and Russia will pay for every inch in blood.  I guess we'll find out in a couple more days when the current ceasefire ends. 

[Allhallowsday]

I was just a little confuse over which "washed up wingnut" you were talking about;;;;
The one that's been OUT of the white house for the past year, or the one that's IN the white house right now????

^ Your a little "confuse", all right;;;
...OK. I'll go for that. 

You two are terrible.  And funny.   

[lester1/2jr]

anyone put off by the overt fascism on display in the Ukraine? particularly in the military ranks

[LilCerberus]

anyone put off by the overt fascism on display in the Ukraine? particularly in the military ranks

You mean by the Ukrainian army or the Russian army?

[lester1/2jr]

I meant the Ukrainian one but that's a good point. Eastern Europe in general has a big nazi community who are also like hobbits

[RCMerchant]

Breaking News!
A Ukrainian woman has downed a drone with a jar of tomatoes as Vladimir Putin's Russian troops continue to mount with their invasion operation.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1577097/ukraine-woman-down-drone-tomato-jar-russia-invasion-putin-latest-news-ont

Dam! 

[Rev. Powell]

anyone put off by the overt fascism on display in the Ukraine? particularly in the military ranks

That's certainly one of Putin's two talking points along with NATO. There are some independent paramilitary groups (most notably the Azov battalion) that are far-right-wing. Of course, it would be better if they weren't tolerated, but the government is not turning down their assistance in a time of emergency.

They have their own politics that are unfamiliar to us: ""In Europe, Nazis support Putin. They think that he wants to make a white, Slavic Europe," says [Sergeant] Kharkiv [of the Azvov Battalion]. "But the white leader, Putin, kills Slavic people. I don't know what the separatists are fighting for."

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-many-neo-nazis-is-the-us-backing-in-ukraine

2018 article: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

[Rev. Powell]

Nata continues to post and continues to feed pigeons. Her sister and her sister's kids evacuated and is in Hungary. They think that Hungarians don't like Ukrainians.

Russian friend is still posting somehow and says he can access youtube. He's not posting anything specifically anti-Putin but you can tell he's not pro-war.

[lester1/2jr]

That's certainly one of Putin's two talking points along with NATO

Well, it outta be cuz its an accurate one. they also typically reject any sort of diplomacy with russia which is not helpful

"After President Zelensky's election in 2019, the extreme right threatened him with removal from office, or even death, if he negotiated with separatist leaders from Donbas and followed through on the Minsk Protocol. Zelensky had run for election as a "peace candidate," but under threat from the right, he refused to even talk to Donbas leaders, whom he dismissed as terrorists."

https://www.codepink.org/how_the_us_has_empowered_and_armed_neo_nazis_in_ukraine

[indianasmith]

One thing this crisis has driven home to me is that a disturbingly large percentage of the American electorate would be perfectly happy to see democracy wither here and all over the world as long as they have jobs and their gas is $1.50 a gallon.

[Allhallowsday]

One thing this crisis has driven home to me is that a disturbingly large percentage of the American electorate would be perfectly happy to see democracy wither here and all over the world as long as they have jobs and their gas is $1.50 a gallon.

It is frightening, stunning, and true. 

[LilCerberus]

One thing this crisis has driven home to me is that a disturbingly large percentage of the American electorate would be perfectly happy to see democracy wither here and all over the world as long as they have jobs and their gas is $1.50 a gallon.

How so?
I've watched democracy get stomped on over the past year while jobs have disappeared and gas shot back up to $3.50 a gallon.

[Rev. Powell]

That's certainly one of Putin's two talking points along with NATO

Well, it outta be cuz its an accurate one. they also typically reject any sort of diplomacy with russia which is not helpful

"After President Zelensky's election in 2019, the extreme right threatened him with removal from office, or even death, if he negotiated with separatist leaders from Donbas and followed through on the Minsk Protocol. Zelensky had run for election as a "peace candidate," but under threat from the right, he refused to even talk to Donbas leaders, whom he dismissed as terrorists."

https://www.codepink.org/how_the_us_has_empowered_and_armed_neo_nazis_in_ukraine

Even that article (which honestly looks to be written by far-left kooks---they frickin' cite "Moon of Alabama" as a source) states up front that "Russia exaggerating it as a pretext for war" and points out that their far-right party (and the Nazi sympathizers are a minority even in within the party) won less than 5% of the parliament. And their support is shrinking.

I find this to be pretty balanced: https://www.npr.org/2022/03/05/1084729572/the-russian-ukraine-conflict-could-strengthen-neo-fascist-groups-in-both-countri

There are Nazis everywhere. Hell, a couple of US Congresspeople just spoke at a Nazi event (where the crowd cheered for Putin, because Nazis can't seem to figure out who they support in this white-on-white conflict).

There's a right wing fringe in Ukraine, but it seems to me focusing on them only muddies the water in what is actually a rare case of moral clarity in world politics: Putin is 100% wrong. Even if you grant that there are Nazis in Ukraine, he can't invade a sovereign country to root them out. Anyone can invade anyone if that's the case.