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Started by ER, November 24, 2023, 02:20:46 PM

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zombie no.one

Well hooper and Ellen's affair seems to take up half the book. Doesn't even happen in the film (thank goodness)

on this subject, book/film related related confessions...

The film of AMERICAN PSYCHO could not be any more different from the book, imo. In terms of tone. I found the book intensely downbeat, claustrophobic, and extremely dark... the film was more like a borderline parody?

I feel similar about FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS... despite the subject matter and the fact it is really funny, I found the book to have quite a 'serious' and focused tone. The film was all over the place and again felt like a bit of a parody

ER

Quote from: Allhallowsday on November 29, 2023, 01:16:35 AM
The rape scene in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE was intended to be funny.  It isn't. 

What's your source on that, John? I've read a bit about Kubrick and have never come across that fact. Or is that just your opinion?
What does not kill me makes me stranger.

Alex

Quote from: zombie no.one on November 30, 2023, 07:46:32 AM

The film of AMERICAN PSYCHO could not be any more different from the book, imo. In terms of tone. I found the book intensely downbeat, claustrophobic, and extremely dark... the film was more like a borderline parody?


I've had a lot of women tell me how attracted they are to Patrick Bateman, both the movie and book versions. I do not understand that and find it vaguely disturbing.
Hail to thyself
For I am my own master
I am my own god
I require no shepherd
For I am no sheep.

Rev. Powell

Quote from: ER on November 30, 2023, 09:23:29 AM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on November 29, 2023, 01:16:35 AM
The rape scene in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE was intended to be funny.  It isn't. 

What's your source on that, John? I've read a bit about Kubrick and have never come across that fact. Or is that just your opinion?

I don't believe the rape scene is intended to be funny per se. Kubrick "humorous" elements to deliberately highlight the horror. Alex and the droogs treat the rape as a joke, but we in the audience are supposed to appreciate the real horror. The fact that Alex thinks it's all fun and games makes it even worse, demonstrating his absolute sociopathy. It's a brilliant use of irony. Unlike some exploitation movie violence that's played for laughs, this one has a real thematic and philosophic purpose.
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ER

I think you sum it up well, Rev, and maybe instead of saying I found the rape scene hilarious it would be more accurate to say it triggered this involuntary hysterical laughter thing with which I'm afflicted, and which doesn't always equate with me truly finding something funny. I admit I did laugh myself silly the first time I watched that scene, and the reactions of the others with me about my laughter went from staring, to kind of joining in, to finally going back to a different sort of staring, and yet there I was helplessly chortling away, almost crying I was laughing so hard. Kinda nuts.
What does not kill me makes me stranger.

zombie no.one

Quote from: Alex on November 30, 2023, 10:21:57 AM
Quote from: zombie no.one on November 30, 2023, 07:46:32 AM

The film of AMERICAN PSYCHO could not be any more different from the book, imo. In terms of tone. I found the book intensely downbeat, claustrophobic, and extremely dark... the film was more like a borderline parody?


I've had a lot of women tell me how attracted they are to Patrick Bateman, both the movie and book versions. I do not understand that and find it vaguely disturbing.

maybe a bit like how you get women who seem only attracted to guys on death row, and marry them ? some kind of weird psychology going on there

Trevor

Quote from: indianasmith on November 27, 2023, 08:09:26 PM
Oh, and one more thing - I've never watched any of the FAST AND FURIOUS movies either.
Car races bore me.

You might like 2 Fast 2 Furious as it is funny as heck.  :smile:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

Alex

Quote from: zombie no.one on November 30, 2023, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: Alex on November 30, 2023, 10:21:57 AM
Quote from: zombie no.one on November 30, 2023, 07:46:32 AM

The film of AMERICAN PSYCHO could not be any more different from the book, imo. In terms of tone. I found the book intensely downbeat, claustrophobic, and extremely dark... the film was more like a borderline parody?


I've had a lot of women tell me how attracted they are to Patrick Bateman, both the movie and book versions. I do not understand that and find it vaguely disturbing.

maybe a bit like how you get women who seem only attracted to guys on death row, and marry them ? some kind of weird psychology going on there

Yeah, especially if you have read the book any woman wanting to spend any time with him is just messed up.
Hail to thyself
For I am my own master
I am my own god
I require no shepherd
For I am no sheep.

claws

Quote from: zombie no.one on November 29, 2023, 12:29:54 PM
people were laughing throughout

They eat brown sauce and marmite so, pretty much what I expected  :wink:
Is it October yet?

Cult_Moody_Movies

Get Out is nothing more then The Stepford Wives. It's nothing original and a little over hyped. Granted a better remake over the actual Stepford Wives remake.

zombie no.one

Quote from: Cult_Moody_Movies on November 30, 2023, 06:39:39 PM
Get Out is nothing more then The Stepford Wives. It's nothing original and a little over hyped. Granted a better remake over the actual Stepford Wives remake.

Apparently there's another film called SKELETON KEY which it is more than a bit similar to... I thought it was fairly average tbh, for a post 2000 mainstream horror. The premise seemed to be its USP, but it didn't really follow through with anything that memorable imo

RCMerchant

I may be the exectpion here, but found the EXORCIST and A CLOCKWORK ORANGE to be exceptional films.
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Trevor

Quote from: RCMerchant on December 01, 2023, 12:50:29 PM
I may be the exectpion here, but found the EXORCIST and A CLOCKWORK ORANGE to be exceptional films.

They were that in their own way: you couldn't find a VHS copy to rent for months from any video store locally after they were unbanned.
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

claws

I couldn't even imagine, as a horror film fan, not being able to watch The Exorcist back in the day because it was banned. This must have really sucked, especially since The Exorcist was a global hit and one of the most talked about movies of its time.
Is it October yet?

Trevor

Quote from: claws on December 01, 2023, 02:54:31 PM
I couldn't even imagine, as a horror film fan, not being able to watch The Exorcist back in the day because it was banned. This must have really sucked, especially since The Exorcist was a global hit and one of the most talked about movies of its time.

The apartheid government really did movie fans dirty: if films weren't banned, they were heavily cut and made almost incomprehensible. Growing up in Rhodesia, the cinema chains there got their movies from SA so the censor laws kind of applied to us as well sadly.  :question:
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