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Title: mst 3000
Post by: kakihara on March 15, 2009, 06:19:45 PM
i miss this show. though after reading about it, i realized something. all of the red tape and corporate crap they had to go through just to get permission for those horrible movies. this is why this show will never be seen on tv again. there was even some legal trouble sometimes because someone felt that a movie was being ruined in some way, when the piece of crap had been forgotten anyway. the dvd boxsets are too expensive and are incomplete. (sigh)....
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: WingedSerpent on March 16, 2009, 12:12:58 PM
I've learned that when a DVD set is released you have to buy it that day.  One of the recent ones had a Godzilla movie in it.  Toho got wind and the set had to be relreased with a different movie.  (I own the Godzilla one-I'm mad the replacemnt movie was issued at the same time for those of us who bought the first set)

I loved this show.  Maybe in a couple years will get MST3K:  The Next Generation
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or did I just give the Sci-Fi channel a bad idea.
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 16, 2009, 03:47:06 PM
they had a little documentary on "werewolf"  from the recent set which I rented.  they talked about how once comedy central got "south park"  it changed the networks image and mst3k didn't fit in anymore.  so they went to sci fi who made them only do sci fi movies which wasn't that much of a stretch but still.  and then it has mary jo piel compaining about all the hate mail she got.    it was really irritating, as if it's her show and the viewers opinons don't count
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 16, 2009, 08:33:47 PM
MST3K is probably a one of a kind show that'll probably never happen again, as far as I'm concerned.  There's too many channels, networks etc, nowadays, what with Digital Cable, Satellite Tv.  Then there's the internet, as some people just watch tv on the internet through YouTube and various other services.  To sit through a two hour show on YouTube is obscenen.
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: 316zombie on April 06, 2009, 03:31:24 PM
just curious, in what way do you feel the boxsets are incomplete? i'm thrilled with them!! and love cinematic titanic and the film crew,as well!! rifftrax? now that's a problem for me, unfortunately....
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: InformationGeek on April 06, 2009, 08:48:11 PM
I never saw the show when it was on the air and it was only recently (As in Feburary) when I took notice of Mystery Science Theater.  I watched episodes on YouTube and google video, which I found were awesome.  I wish the show could still be around or show old episodes, but it'll sadly never happen.

Also, I'm kind of curious.  Why isn't Vol. 9 available anymore?  Which movies from the set did they lose license of?
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 06, 2009, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: InformationGeek on April 06, 2009, 08:48:11 PM
I never saw the show when it was on the air and it was only recently (As in Feburary) when I took notice of Mystery Science Theater.  I watched episodes on YouTube and google video, which I found were awesome.  I wish the show could still be around or show old episodes, but it'll sadly never happen.

Also, I'm kind of curious.  Why isn't Vol. 9 available anymore?  Which movies from the set did they lose license of?
Not 100% certain, but I think it relates to a Godzilla flick.
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: Rev. Powell on April 06, 2009, 09:13:37 PM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on April 06, 2009, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: InformationGeek on April 06, 2009, 08:48:11 PM
I never saw the show when it was on the air and it was only recently (As in Feburary) when I took notice of Mystery Science Theater.  I watched episodes on YouTube and google video, which I found were awesome.  I wish the show could still be around or show old episodes, but it'll sadly never happen.

Also, I'm kind of curious.  Why isn't Vol. 9 available anymore?  Which movies from the set did they lose license of?
Not 100% certain, but I think it relates to a Godzilla flick.

Volume 10 had a Godzilla flick pulled. They replaced it with GIANT GILA MONSTER and rereleased it as Vol 10.2.  I think the problem with 9 was a Roger Corman film that they assumed was public domain, but actually wasn't.

I think one or two of the old Rhino boxsets have sold out, along with some of the individual discs.  If you want them buy whatever you find available, because once the Rhino sets are gone they won't be pressing ny more.
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 07, 2009, 09:37:42 AM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on April 06, 2009, 09:13:37 PM
Quote from: HappyGilmore on April 06, 2009, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: InformationGeek on April 06, 2009, 08:48:11 PM
I never saw the show when it was on the air and it was only recently (As in Feburary) when I took notice of Mystery Science Theater.  I watched episodes on YouTube and google video, which I found were awesome.  I wish the show could still be around or show old episodes, but it'll sadly never happen.

Also, I'm kind of curious.  Why isn't Vol. 9 available anymore?  Which movies from the set did they lose license of?
Not 100% certain, but I think it relates to a Godzilla flick.

Volume 10 had a Godzilla flick pulled. They replaced it with GIANT GILA MONSTER and rereleased it as Vol 10.2.  I think the problem with 9 was a Roger Corman film that they assumed was public domain, but actually wasn't.

I think one or two of the old Rhino boxsets have sold out, along with some of the individual discs.  If you want them buy whatever you find available, because once the Rhino sets are gone they won't be pressing ny more.
Thanks for clarifying.  I knew one set had a Godzilla flick pulled, but wasn't sure if it was 9 or 10. 

I'd love to get more sets of their flicks, but they are a bit costly.  Around here, it's like, $55-$65, and they seem to only have 4 or 5 movies.
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: Jack on April 07, 2009, 11:23:06 AM
I really liked the show, but the box sets are a bit pricey for me.  And the used DVD's aren't much cheaper than the new ones. 
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: RCMerchant on April 07, 2009, 05:01:03 PM
I watched the show when it was aired on a uhf channel here in about 1994....and It introduced me to some great BAD movies such as MANOS and the CREEPING TERROR...but I was always irritated that those dumbass robots always blocked part of the screen! That being said,I am happy it aired...as it gave a larger audiance a chance to appreciate films they might not have ever watched otherwise.
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: Rev. Powell on April 07, 2009, 09:09:14 PM
RC, I can respect why guys like you don't like the show.  It isn't a replacement for watching the original bad movies, it's a completely separate entertainment experience.  A lot of MST3K fans don't even appreciate bad movies on their own; they have contempt for them.  I liked bad movies before I saw the show.  I have contempt for the folks who won't even seek out the better bad movies on their own and only know them through MST3K.
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 08, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on April 07, 2009, 09:09:14 PM
RC, I can respect why guys like you don't like the show.  It isn't a replacement for watching the original bad movies, it's a completely separate entertainment experience.  A lot of MST3K fans don't even appreciate bad movies on their own; they have contempt for them.  I liked bad movies before I saw the show.  I have contempt for the folks who won't even seek out the better bad movies on their own and only know them through MST3K.
That's true, to a degree.  Although, speaking for myself, half the movies I love are movies I was introduced to in the mid '90s.  Having been born in '84, I got to grow up with three shows that showcased 'b' movies or 'bad movies': USA's Up All Night (where I first saw several Troma flicks, 'edited' of course, as well as the Killer Tomatoes, etc.), as well as MST3K, and TNT's MonsterVision with Joe Bob Briggs, where I first saw Night of the Living Dead and Night of the Lepus.  May have warped my 'sense of good', as most tell me that having a dvd collection with Hard Rock Zombies, but not having Taxi Driver is a shame.  Don't get me wrong, both good movies, but I prefer one to the other.
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: lester1/2jr on April 08, 2009, 11:08:14 AM
anythign that is going to introduce these types of movies to a larger audience is good.
Title: Re: mst 3000
Post by: Flangepart on April 14, 2009, 11:06:32 AM
 Well, I did get the Showa Video copys of G Vs. Megalon and G Vs. The Sea Monster, and the Showa stuff works good, so you could go there for the MST3K of those, and the gamera flicks.
I can see somes times they were a bit rough on some movies. GORGO I like as is ( TO quote Leonard Maltin) but the MST gig is a classic for great lines, as is SPACE MUTANY and CREEPING TERROR, as examples.
I've done some 'roll yer own' MSTs with my Karaoke machine and a DVD. Try it you'll like it! ]