The Quentin Tarantino debacle: your thoughts?

[dean]

Tarantino has a habit of running his mouth in many areas. That being said I also think that organisations should be able to withstand criticism, especially with some of the stuff that's happened recently. Nobody should be above reproach and I dare say that some of the nasty events I've heard about may not be murder but boy do they seem pretty close to it... I know there are alot of people who feel the same way Tarantino does, he just happens to have a mic, very little filter and a blunt delivery.

[Ed, Ego and Superego]

1) Quentin is an Asshat.
2) I'm not convinced about the war on police.
3) Most police are good people who want to help and get paid peanuts for it.  I love em dearly.
4) Except the ones who are more like Quentin in Point 1.  They deserve to be heavily punished if they break the law.  They are not above it.

-Ed

[HappyGilmore]

Based on what he says here, it makes sense.
http://youtu.be/xDHJADECk7s

[A_Dubya]

They should have handled that better.

That being said, if you are 400 pounds, diabetic, with a heart condition, you probably shouldn't struggle to begin with.

So somebody being choked to death should be calm because they have health conditions? Gotcha. It's clearly his fault for struggling when a gang of officers jumped on him.

[indianasmith]

They didn't jump him until he refused to be handcuffed and began to struggle.
The one time I was arrested, I let them cuff me and got into the car and rode to the station.
How exactly does resisting arrest EVER make things go better for you?

[Jim H]

They didn't jump him until he refused to be handcuffed and began to struggle.
The one time I was arrested, I let them cuff me and got into the car and rode to the station.
How exactly does resisting arrest EVER make things go better for you?

It doesn't.  That's really not the point.  People will resist arrest at times.  Police shouldn't use violence unless it is an immediate necessity, or after exhausting other options.  If someone can't or won't do this, they have no business being a police officer.

[FatFreddysCat]

I thought Tarantino was a massive d-bag long before this latest kerfuffle....

[Trevor]

The one time I was arrested, I let them cuff me and got into the car and rode to the station.

What the.....? When were you arrested?

[indianasmith]

Back around 1988 or 1989.  There was a piece of property that I'd had permission to hunt arrowheads on back in high school.  It had changed caretakers and I didn't know it and I got picked up for trespassing.  A couple of phone calls and it was all straightened out, though.

[Trevor]

Back around 1988 or 1989.  There was a piece of property that I'd had permission to hunt arrowheads on back in high school.  It had changed caretakers and I didn't know it and I got picked up for trespassing.  A couple of phone calls and it was all straightened out, though.

Oh, OK: I got kicked off a movie set in 1997 for the exact same thing. They were filming in Pretoria Central and I accidentally walked onto the set. A crew member told me to get the [deleted] off the set - public land!! - or I would be arrested.  



THIS ^^^ movie. 

[A_Dubya]

They didn't jump him until he refused to be handcuffed and began to struggle.
The one time I was arrested, I let them cuff me and got into the car and rode to the station.
How exactly does resisting arrest EVER make things go better for you?

It doesn't.  That's really not the point.  People will resist arrest at times.  Police shouldn't use violence unless it is an immediate necessity, or after exhausting other options.  If someone can't or won't do this, they have no business being a police officer.

That's exactly my point. Resisting arrest in that case wasn't something that should've been punishable by death. Sickening how some people defend these crooked ass policemen.

[indianasmith]

If a cop shoots a guy who is running away in the back and kills him, that is murder, pure and simple.  He should be prosecuted and I certainly wouldn't defend him.

But if a cop tackles a guy who is trying to get away and in the course of the struggle the man suffers a heart attack because he is 200 pounds overweight, diabetic, and decided to fight back anyway, is that really murder?  Or is it just a tragedy?

I don't defend crooked cops, or those who deliberately abuse their power.  But I also have some idea how hard their job is, and I'm not going to throw them under the bus until I have a chance to hear their side of the story.

[Olivia Bauer]

From what I can tell he doesn't think all cops are murderers. But he acknowledged that police brutality exists.

Seems pretty benign to me.

[A_Dubya]

I have a hard time giving any cop the benefit of the doubt, or waiting to hear "their side of the story" when video evidence irrefutably shows them killing another human being, and abusing their force for a minor offense.

[javakoala]

My policy on dealing with the police is similar to the rule of thumb about wasps: You leave them alone, and they will usually leave you alone.

I do agree with Indy about being arrested, but some people just don't get it and figure they have to take a stand or whatever they want to call it. Your best option is to offer zero resistance and only answer with the bare minimum of words, and NEVER, EVER listen to their line of crap about telling them everything because it will help you. Keep your mouth shut until you talk to a lawyer, even if you are innocent of the charges.

And, yeah, Tarantino has become a bit of a jerk and his movies have started to become tedious, but that is just my personal opinion of him and his films. Your mileage may vary.