The Crazy SOB Actually Did it!

[Allhallowsday]

Doesn't everyone here agree with me?

Isn't that the correct opinion?

I'd love to agree with you Lester. 

What opinion are you inquiring about?   

[lester1/2jr]

who even knows at this point

[Allhallowsday]

I'm not kidding.  I'm not following this thread, though I looked back a page.   

[RCMerchant]

okay well some people view this as a good vs evil thing and others, me, view it as an avoidable conflict brought on by western arrogance. Thats basically it


rc -

Seems like folks with your mind set hate commies- but love Putin!

your side loves communism but hates Putin whats up with that?

My side? What side would that be?
Do you even know what 'communism' is?

[Alex]

Turns out the fight there is still ongoing at the steelworks, so reports of a rare victory are, as yet a bit premature. Their command has issued an order for them to surrender though. 10 weeks under siege and counting.

Other reports suggest that Ukrainian forces may be taking limited scale strikes across the border at high-value military targets, including a helicopter attack and sabotage teams. I hope more Russian civilians don't end up paying the price for putin's arrogance.

[lester1/2jr]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/28/ukrainian-fighters-grease-bullets-against-chechens-with-pig-fat

"The National Guard of Ukraine has shared a video on its Twitter account that appears to show Azov fighters greasing bullets with pig fat, ostensibly to be used against against Muslim Chechens deployed to their country as Russia steps up its military assault on Ukraine."


pig fat and bullets paid for by you and me (if you're American)

[Alex]

Meanwhile a one-year-old reported to have been raped by Russian soldiers has died.

https://www.businessinsider.com/1-year-old-died-rape-russian-soldiers-ukraine-ombudsman-said-2022-5?r=US&IR=T

A Russian soldier being prosecuted for war crimes has confessed and begged for forgiveness from his victim's widow. This is the first war crime trial of the war.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61496428

[Jim H]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/28/ukrainian-fighters-grease-bullets-against-chechens-with-pig-fat

"The National Guard of Ukraine has shared a video on its Twitter account that appears to show Azov fighters greasing bullets with pig fat, ostensibly to be used against against Muslim Chechens deployed to their country as Russia steps up its military assault on Ukraine."


pig fat and bullets paid for by you and me (if you're American)

There's a lot of Chechens on the Ukraine side too.  Wonder how they feel about it.

But yeah, the Azov guys are, to put it mildly, lousy people, but I can't blame Ukraine for continuing to field them any more than I could Finland allying with the Nazis back in the day.  You take whoever you can get when Russia invades.

[Alex]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/28/ukrainian-fighters-grease-bullets-against-chechens-with-pig-fat

"The National Guard of Ukraine has shared a video on its Twitter account that appears to show Azov fighters greasing bullets with pig fat, ostensibly to be used against against Muslim Chechens deployed to their country as Russia steps up its military assault on Ukraine."


pig fat and bullets paid for by you and me (if you're American)

There's a lot of Chechens on the Ukraine side too.  Wonder how they feel about it.

But yeah, the Azov guys are, to put it mildly, lousy people, but I can't blame Ukraine for continuing to field them any more than I could Finland allying with the Nazis back in the day.  You take whoever you can get when Russia invades.

Indeed, and Russias invasion will make heroes out of them increasing their appeal. Putin's 'anti-nazification' is more likely to make things worse than better.

[lester1/2jr]

all of the countries on this chart have more skin in the game than we do. the Eu's economy is bigger than ours whats going on here?

[Rev. Powell]

all of the countries on this chart have more skin in the game than we do. the Eu's economy is bigger than ours whats going on here?

Our economy and military dwarfs all those countries. Look at it by percentage of GDP instead:



Also, European countries are absorbing a greater blow from boycotts of Russian products. Still, it's true France and Germany, especially, should be doing more.

[lester1/2jr]

Its a new kind of "proxy war" when one entity is furnishing  basically the entire military of one side of a conflict.

I can't help but think if our input was the same as these other entities we would have reached some sort of conclusion by now, a negotiated peace


Alex - "Insider could find no independent evidence for the claim." their source is the Ukrainian government which has no aversion to spinning tales. Obviously it is a very clear war crime if true. in wars there are atrocities but also atrocity propaganda

[Alex]

I'd also point out that the video you posted was not verified either.

[lester1/2jr]

the video was posted and commented on back in February https://twitter.com/nwarikoo/status/1498030734740803584 is also in the article

[Alex]

The article also states that the video had not been verified.