movies whose (awful) reputation mystifies you

Dr. Whom · April 21, 2025, 02:28:23 AM

Quote from: M.10rda on April 20, 2025, 08:14:15 AMI elected to watch the first TWILIGHT again w/ Madame a few years ago. It had a real director who almost makes it seem like a real movie in spite of the goofy and problematic concept, and in spite of Stewart's willfully obtuse performance. Then Madame proceeded to watch all the rest of the movies, and trust me, they progressively justify the bad reputation to increasingly larger degrees!

I went to see the first Twilight way back when it came out to see what the fuss was all about, and I was pleasantly surprised. It was nowhere near as bad as I expected. One of the instances of the movie being better than the book.

zombie no.one · April 21, 2025, 02:00:12 PM

EXORCIST 2

there are certain films (in fact many) that I personally love but I can objectively see exactly why they've got such a terrible reputation...

this one is a kind of half-way house for me. I can totally see how fans of the original EXORCIST might be dismayed at how unfaithful it is to anything. but as a singular piece of cinematic entertainment I think it's not deserving of the hate and mockery it gets...

claws · April 21, 2025, 03:25:30 PM

^ A boring success, or an interesting failure?

My favorite Part 2 story:

QuoteWilliam Friedkin, director of the first film, told a story, recalled to by a Warner Bros. executive, at the Chicago Critics Film Festival in April 2013. Studio heads came to the sneak preview of "Exorcist II" in a limo, and told the drivers to go get fast food. They entered the auditorium, and within 10 minutes into the film, an audience member stood up, glanced into the crowd, and proclaimed: "The people who made this piece of s**t are in this room!" 10 or 12 other audience members gathered to find the executives. The heads rushed out of the theater and realized that there were no cars to make their escape. They were subsequently chased down the street by a group of angry audience members.

zombie no.one · April 21, 2025, 03:37:39 PM

that's funny... but a story "recalled" by 'not the teller'. yeah I'm taking that with just a tiny pinch of salt

Rev. Powell · April 21, 2025, 03:49:49 PM

I like EXORCIST 2 and I'd actually prefer to re-watch it than the original, even though the first film is clearly a better movie. But I totally understand why some people hate it. It's a goofy B-movie sequel to a serious, awards-caliber film.

Trevor · April 22, 2025, 11:49:43 AM

Quote from: claws on April 21, 2025, 03:25:30 PM^ A boring success, or an interesting failure?

My favorite Part 2 story:

QuoteWilliam Friedkin, director of the first film, told a story, recalled to by a Warner Bros. executive, at the Chicago Critics Film Festival in April 2013. Studio heads came to the sneak preview of "Exorcist II" in a limo, and told the drivers to go get fast food. They entered the auditorium, and within 10 minutes into the film, an audience member stood up, glanced into the crowd, and proclaimed: "The people who made this piece of s**t are in this room!" 10 or 12 other audience members gathered to find the executives. The heads rushed out of the theater and realized that there were no cars to make their escape. They were subsequently chased down the street by a group of angry audience members.

😳😂😅😀😄😃

Criswell · May 02, 2025, 08:22:14 AM

Quote from: M.10rda on April 20, 2025, 08:14:15 AMI elected to watch the first TWILIGHT again w/ Madame a few years ago. It had a real director who almost makes it seem like a real movie in spite of the goofy and problematic concept, and in spite of Stewart's willfully obtuse performance. Then Madame proceeded to watch all the rest of the movies, and trust me, they progressively justify the bad reputation to increasingly larger degrees!

I've never read the book myself, but from what I've heard it's a minor miracle they managed to make any kind of movie out of it.

chainsaw midget · **Today** at 07:04:55 AM

Quote from: Criswell on May 02, 2025, 08:22:14 AMI've never read the book myself, but from what I've heard it's a minor miracle they managed to make any kind of movie out of it.

I think part of the credit for it turning out even nearly as decent as it did, was that the guy who played Edward said he actually hated the character so he tried to play him as a guy that just openly hated himself.

Rev. Powell · **Today** at 11:08:55 AM

Quote from: chainsaw midget on Today at 07:04:55 AM
Quote from: Criswell on May 02, 2025, 08:22:14 AMI've never read the book myself, but from what I've heard it's a minor miracle they managed to make any kind of movie out of it.
I think part of the credit for it turning out even nearly as decent as it did, was that the guy who played Edward said he actually hated the character so he tried to play him as a guy that just openly hated himself.

I find it hilarious that you refer to Robert Pattinson as "the guy who played Edward."

Criswell · **Today** at 02:45:58 PM

I think it does help a lot that Robert Pattinson turned into a pretty good actor or was doing his best with what he had to work with in Twilight. I also think a lot of the hate around those was just people like to hate things that are popular with women. They're not good, but they're not the worst thing that's ever happened to cinema.