Need help with these 2 horror flicks

[moybutter]

The first one is child killer movie. The child is no older than 12 years old. He is perceived as a homeless, helpless child wandering around without a home, but when someone finds him & takes him in he ends up killing them and then wanders around until someone else finds him and kills them. The movie is all about his life with one particular family. I remember scene in which he walks in to a bathroom where a female is taking a bath. She covers herself up with her knees and asks why he didn't knock. There is a radio sitting close to a bathtub and the boy asks "what would happen if this radio would drop in to the bathtub" (paraphrasing) The woman says that it would be a bad thing or something like that. The boy ends up leaving the bathroom without doing anything.

Dont' quote me on this one, I might be confusing this scene with another movie. I remember a second scene in which this boy (I think) makes threatening calls to an older female. The boy coerces the lady into undressing in front of a window, and on the phone the lady says "Is this what you want to see!" then the lady's daughter walks in and says "Mom!". At the end of the movie the boy is shown walking alone down a deserted road.

The second movie is a about a female who lost her dad & she misses him so much that she thinks every man that she meets is her dad. The female is in her late teens/20's. She ends up terrorizing all of these unsuspecting men that she meets. I remember a scene in which she is listening to a recorded male voice on an answering machine, and as it plays over and over again she says "I miss you daddy" over and over again while crying. At the end of the movie she meets another guy, has a polite conversation with him and says "You look just like my daddy" (paraphrasing) or something like that.

I remember watching these movies when I was a kid in the 80's, so these were probably made sometime in the 70's or 80's. I am unsure if these were made for TV movies or regular movies. I searched the internet for hour on end and I couldn't find anything. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[akiratubo]

Dont' quote me on this one, I might be confusing this scene with another movie. I remember a second scene in which this boy (I think) makes threatening calls to an older female. The boy coerces the lady into undressing in front of a window, and on the phone the lady says "Is this what you want to see!" then the lady's daughter walks in and says "Mom!".

From The Pit

http://www.badmovies.org/movies/thepit/

The second movie is a about a female who lost her dad & she misses him so much that she thinks every man that she meets is her dad. The female is in her late teens/20's. She ends up terrorizing all of these unsuspecting men that she meets. I remember a scene in which she is listening to a recorded male voice on an answering machine, and as it plays over and over again she says "I miss you daddy" over and over again while crying. At the end of the movie she meets another guy, has a polite conversation with him and says "You look just like my daddy" (paraphrasing) or something like that.

Sounds like something the main female does in Pigs.

http://www.badmovies.org/movies/pigs/

[Andrew]

Dont' quote me on this one, I might be confusing this scene with another movie. I remember a second scene in which this boy (I think) makes threatening calls to an older female. The boy coerces the lady into undressing in front of a window, and on the phone the lady says "Is this what you want to see!" then the lady's daughter walks in and says "Mom!". At the end of the movie the boy is shown walking alone down a deserted road.

This perfectly matches a scene in "The Pit."  However, the first paragraph does not.  Click here for a review of "The Pit."

The second movie is a about a female who lost her dad & she misses him so much that she thinks every man that she meets is her dad. The female is in her late teens/20's. She ends up terrorizing all of these unsuspecting men that she meets. I remember a scene in which she is listening to a recorded male voice on an answering machine, and as it plays over and over again she says "I miss you daddy" over and over again while crying. At the end of the movie she meets another guy, has a polite conversation with him and says "You look just like my daddy" (paraphrasing) or something like that.

This matches "Toys Are Not for Children" (1972) in some ways, but I do not believe it is your film.  However, the movie you describe could be a re-working of that film.  Click here for the IMDb page for "Toys Are Not for Children."

[Javakoala]

The first one is child killer movie. The child is no older than 12 years old. He is perceived as a homeless, helpless child wandering around without a home, but when someone finds him & takes him in he ends up killing them and then wanders around until someone else finds him and kills them. The movie is all about his life with one particular family. I remember scene in which he walks in to a bathroom where a female is taking a bath. She covers herself up with her knees and asks why he didn't knock. There is a radio sitting close to a bathtub and the boy asks "what would happen if this radio would drop in to the bathtub" (paraphrasing) The woman says that it would be a bad thing or something like that. The boy ends up leaving the bathroom without doing anything.

Dont' quote me on this one, I might be confusing this scene with another movie. I remember a second scene in which this boy (I think) makes threatening calls to an older female. The boy coerces the lady into undressing in front of a window, and on the phone the lady says "Is this what you want to see!" then the lady's daughter walks in and says "Mom!". At the end of the movie the boy is shown walking alone down a deserted road.

I don't know about the second scene, but that first part is almost definitely "Mikey" with Brian Bonsall. He is an orphan placed with a family after his other foster parents died tragically. <heh heh, right> He proceeds to make the new family miserable until he's tired of playing with them. He offs the mother in a scene like the one described.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104870/

[moybutter]

Thank you all for the replies. I bought the DVD's The Pit, Toys Are Not for Children, & Mikey based on your replies. Obviously I got that scene in The Pit confused with the other movie. I found out that Mikey is a 1992 production. I could've swore that Mikey was an older release. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one.

[Javakoala]

Thank you all for the replies. I bought the DVD's The Pit, Toys Are Not for Children, & Mikey based on your replies. Obviously I got that scene in The Pit confused with the other movie. I found out that Mikey is a 1992 production. I could've swore that Mikey was an older release. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one.

I just went back and watched an old bootleg of "Mikey". I'm pretty sure it is the first movie you mentioned. He offs the first "mom" with a blow dryer in the bubble bath, threatens the main "mom" with a curling iron while she's in the tub and uses the boom box on someone in a Jacuzzi.

And I too was shocked to see how recent that movie was, but when you think about it, that is getting close to 20 years ago. It has a very 80's feel to it, especially considering one of the main actors was in the series "Miami Vice".