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« on: September 03, 2019, 09:54:47 AM »

The real psycho here
Was not Jack Torrence, it was
The film's director.
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2019, 10:34:37 AM »

Do you say that in a good way? 

It's one of the best experiences I ever had in a theater.
I never heard so many people scream at the same time.  Thumbup
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2019, 10:46:37 AM »

I was wondering in times of #metoo if the abuse of Wendy would still fly these days. I'm actually kind of surprised The Shining hasn't receive any backlash yet.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2019, 10:47:58 AM »

I was wondering in times of #metoo if the abuse of Wendy would still fly these days. I'm actually kind of surprised The Shining hasn't receive any backlash yet.

She saves her son and is the hero! As far as #metoo and horror films. They made a movie called I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE III. I mean-the SHINING is kid stuff as far as abuse of women goes.

Plus it's a dam good film, politics be damned.
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2019, 10:49:34 AM »

I was wondering in times of #metoo if the abuse of Wendy would still fly these days. I'm actually kind of surprised The Shining hasn't receive any backlash yet.

She saves he son and is the hero!

She does indeed but she's still abused by her husband. A former feminist friend hated The Shining because of that.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2019, 10:54:51 AM »

Her husband is the VILLAIN.  He's supposed to do bad things so you can cheer for her to break free and survive. 

Complaining that the bad guy is being a bad guy just strikes me as looking for something to be offended by. 
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2019, 10:56:48 AM »

I was wondering in times of #metoo if the abuse of Wendy would still fly these days. I'm actually kind of surprised The Shining hasn't receive any backlash yet.

She saves he son and is the hero!

She does indeed but she's still abused by her husband. A former feminist friend hated The Shining because of that.
So does that make PLAY MISTY FOR ME (1971) anti male? Or PLANET OF THE APES anti-human?
Sure Jack was a psycho trying to kill, not only his wife-but his son and anyone around him.
IT'S A HORROR MOVIE.
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2019, 11:09:16 AM »

I was mostly goofing around with that haiku, so don't read too much into it.

The Shining is a great film and Kubrick is among my favorite directors, but he is well-known for having been at best difficult, at worst a tyrannical bully, and Shelley Duvall and Nicole Kidman have both spoken about some things that make Kubrick's ethics sound questionable.

There was a scene in Eyes Wide Shut where observers say Kubrick seemed to be getting off on instructing the actor who played the naval officer to do things to Kidman that were probably inappropriate, and I've read she left the set crying.

Is that how it was? I don't know but it is what's reported. In the DVD extras of Eyes Wide Shut Kidman spoke well of working with Kubrick, so who knows.

Kubrick was a genius but a boor to work for, and Ryan O'Neal almost punched him more than once during Barry Lyndon.
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2019, 11:12:07 AM »

He probably is a horrible person to work with but I see that as more him being such a perfectionist that he has to push his actors past the point where they're "acting" their emotions to where they're actually feeling them.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2019, 11:12:16 AM »

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Stephen King Hates The Shining Because It’s Misogynistic

(King) took issue specifically with Wendy’s portrayal in the movie, noting that the Shelley Duvall Wendy is, unlike her scribbled counterpart, “one of the most misogynistic characters ever put on film,” a film, he explained, that really seems too “cold”:

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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2019, 11:39:02 AM »

All work and no play
Makes Jack a dull boy. All work
And no play makes Jack...
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2019, 12:09:17 PM »

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Stephen King Hates The Shining Because It’s Misogynistic

(King) took issue specifically with Wendy’s portrayal in the movie, noting that the Shelley Duvall Wendy is, unlike her scribbled counterpart, “one of the most misogynistic characters ever put on film,” a film, he explained, that really seems too “cold”:

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He wrote the f**king book where Jack is trying to kill his whole family.  
Whatever he says after the fact is back tracking nonsense.
He's trying to stay relevant in a world which doesn't give a f**k about his latest long winded diatribe. As an author- he's gone pretty downhill for a long time. He has been doing pulp fiction for a long time. His short stories are the medium he should stick to. Like Robert Bloch or Ray Bradbury.
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2019, 12:20:18 PM »

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Stephen King Hates The Shining Because It’s Misogynistic

(King) took issue specifically with Wendy’s portrayal in the movie, noting that the Shelley Duvall Wendy is, unlike her scribbled counterpart, “one of the most misogynistic characters ever put on film,” a film, he explained, that really seems too “cold”:

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He wrote the f**king book where Jack is trying to kill his whole family.  
Whatever he says after the fact is back tracking nonsense.
He's trying to stay relevant in a world which doesn't give a f**k about his latest long winded diatribe. As an author- it's gone pretty downhill for a long time. He has been doing pulp fiction for a long time. His short stories are the medium he should stick to. Like Robert Bloch or Ray Bradbury.

Night Shift is my favorite King book, and it says something that I think his very earliest and shortest material is his best. (But his best among some fine storytelling throughout his career.)

I haven't been able to get into anything he's written since 11 22 63, and it was hit or miss for a long time before then because he seems to have lost the gift for pure storytelling and anymore wants to preach his views and teach lessons, often in a heavy-handed and not fun way.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2019, 12:22:47 PM »

And a good writer doesn't make a good movie. Look at the SHINING  (1997) remake that King approved of, and it sucked.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118460/
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2019, 12:29:46 PM »

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Stephen King Hates The Shining Because It’s Misogynistic

(King) took issue specifically with Wendy’s portrayal in the movie, noting that the Shelley Duvall Wendy is, unlike her scribbled counterpart, “one of the most misogynistic characters ever put on film,” a film, he explained, that really seems too “cold”:

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He wrote the f**king book where Jack is trying to kill his whole family.  
Whatever he says after the fact is back tracking nonsense.
He's trying to stay relevant in a world which doesn't give a f**k about his latest long winded diatribe. As an author- it's gone pretty downhill for a long time. He has been doing pulp fiction for a long time. His short stories are the medium he should stick to. Like Robert Bloch or Ray Bradbury.

Night Shift is my favorite King book, and it says something that I think his very earliest and shortest material is his best. (But his best among some fine storytelling throughout his career.)

I haven't been able to get into anything he's written since 11 22 63, and it was hit or miss for a long time before then because he seems to have lost the gift for pure storytelling and anymore wants to preach his views and teach lessons, often in a heavy-handed and not fun way.

I did enjoy 11/22/63. I ain't saying I don't enjoy or read his stuff. I just think that King calling the SHINING film by Kubrick misogynistic is hypocritical bulls**t.
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