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The Crazy SOB Actually Did it!

Started by indianasmith, February 23, 2022, 11:16:30 PM

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indianasmith

Quote from: LilCerberus on February 25, 2022, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: RCMerchant on February 25, 2022, 01:16:54 AM
Quote from: LilCerberus on February 24, 2022, 11:18:32 PM
Trump didn't have the United states dependent on Russian oil.

The US is not dependent on Russian oil whatsoever. 7% was imported from Russia. 30% from Canada. Most of our oil comes from right here.

And you got balls to even mention Trump's name in connection with Russia, with his recent appalling comments.

Most of our oil came from "here" during the Trump Administration.
Biden shut down domestic production for green stuff that doesn't work, green stuff that is heavily dependent on polymers from oil.
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FOR CRYING OUT LOUD - Biden did not "shut down domestic production"!! What a crock.
U.S. production has actually INCREASED in the last year.  What he did was place a moratorium on any new drilling permits on PUBLIC land.
80% of all U.S. oil drilling is on private land, and all the promising locations on public lands got drilling permits YEARS ago.
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

LilCerberus

^Isn't a moratorium the same thing?^ ^Besides, he doubled all the fees that US companies pay.^
And he's on record BEGGING OPEC to increase production.

Biden is also on record saying Russia would face minor consequences for a minor incursion..........

From the very beginning, creepy joe has made it clear to the world that he has no backbone, and he's made it clear to the american people that he's never had their best interest in mind
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
The world runs off money, even for those with a warped sense of what the world is.

JuanSnz

It's sad that literally we could see on a screen how a country is invaded in real time, and the only thing that we could, is acting like a color commentator on a game: saying the obvious.

Here, in Argentina, in the Capital City, C.A.B.A (Ciudad Autónoma de Buenos Aires), El Obelisco is painted with the Ukrainian colors.

The irony, is that the official Government's statement, which didn't come from Alberto Fernandez's lips, but from a spokesman (well, spokeswoman) about the conflict, was so soft, so indifferent, just a 'we feel sorrow for what happens in Ukraine' and there is not a single word about who is the invader, and for what reason is the invasion.

It feels like the statement could be used for past or future invasion, just changing 'Ukraine' for the name of the invaded country and if it is convenient add the name of the invader.

LilCerberus

I keep hearing small bits of encouragement, such as this Ukraine jet fighter that that the Russians can't keep up with, or how they passed out free guns & the people used them, setting the Russians back a bit...

But it's still sad.
It seems nobody wanted this but Putin.
Even the Russian people didn't want it....

I hope Biden doesn't get us involved, just keep trying more sanctions.....
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
The world runs off money, even for those with a warped sense of what the world is.

Alex

It seems that the Russian invasion is not going as well as they had planned and the basic day one objectives have not been met. Good for the Ukrainians. I did like their president's alleged reply to an offer to evacuate him (I don't need evacuation, I need anti-tank shells).

Russia has issued a threat to Finland after in response to Russia's illegal invasion of the Ukraine, their Prime Minister has suggested they will apply for full NATO membership before the next election and some reports suggest Russia is massing troops on Poland's border. One UK minister has already said that if one Russian soldiers boot sets foot on NATO soil then it is war.

For the moment I suspect everyone will stick to sanctions which are a good way of pretending you are doing something, while not really doing anything. China has already lowered its trade restrictions with Russia to counter the already quite weak western sanctions. Maybe if Russia is prevented from accessing SWIFT, it might do something to hurt them, but it still won't change their course.

I wonder at what point people will really stand up against a tyrant?
I'll show you ruin
I'll show you heartbreak
I'll show you lonely
A sorrow in darkness

Rev. Powell

Russian warship, go f**k yourself.

https://youtu.be/6Y2iVHUMZhg

And hey, my friend's still alive as of 6 minutes ago!

I'll take you places the hand of man has not yet set foot...

JuanSnz

Well, Russian people have a lot of reasons to kick him, especially the Women Rights movements, and the LGBT+ communities, but mostly of the opposition's leaders, are in jail.

Finland is the other country that has a past with Russia. There is a infamous moment when Molotov said, during the Winter War, that the Soviets are not bombing Finland, they are just dropping food for the people  :lookingup:

Newt

Quote from: Alex on February 26, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
For the moment I suspect everyone will stick to sanctions which are a good way of pretending you are doing something, while not really doing anything.

I wish I could shake the feeling that Ukraine is being sacrificed on some sort of political altar.  Putin simply does not play by the same rules as the rest of the world seems to expect.
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Alex

Quote from: Newt on February 26, 2022, 12:02:14 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 26, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
For the moment I suspect everyone will stick to sanctions which are a good way of pretending you are doing something, while not really doing anything.

I wish I could shake the feeling that Ukraine is being sacrificed on some sort of political altar.  Putin simply does not play by the same rules as the rest of the world seems to expect.

So far he is just pulling the same kind of crap guys like Hitler and Stalin did. He will continue until someone stands up to him. Let's just hope they do it before it is too late. You'd think people would learn from history but apparently not.
I'll show you ruin
I'll show you heartbreak
I'll show you lonely
A sorrow in darkness

RCMerchant

#54
^ History? Who reads anymore if it's not in a tweet?  :question:
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Lugosi-"No. Dracula-never ends."
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indianasmith

Quote from: Alex on February 26, 2022, 12:10:25 PM
Quote from: Newt on February 26, 2022, 12:02:14 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 26, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
For the moment I suspect everyone will stick to sanctions which are a good way of pretending you are doing something, while not really doing anything.

I wish I could shake the feeling that Ukraine is being sacrificed on some sort of political altar.  Putin simply does not play by the same rules as the rest of the world seems to expect.

So far he is just pulling the same kind of crap guys like Hitler and Stalin did. He will continue until someone stands up to him. Let's just hope they do it before it is too late. You'd think people would learn from history but apparently not.

The problem with putting boots on the ground is it's a short slide from there to nuclear war. That would be game over for all of us!
"I shall smite you in the nostrils with a rod of iron, and wax your spleen with Efferdent!!"

Allhallowsday

What is another word for bed-pan? 

Poo-tin.
If you want to view paradise . . . simply look around and view it!

LilCerberus

Trump was giving The Ukraine weapons, now ALL of their neighbors are supplying weapons....

That's what we should be doing, like when Reagan gave weapons to Afghanistan when The Soviets invaded...
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
The world runs off money, even for those with a warped sense of what the world is.

lester1/2jr

#58
^ well, considering recent history, we might have been better off with a communist Afghanistan being paid for and administered by Russia


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/26/us/politics/ukraine-europe-refugees.html?referringSource=articleShare  


Quote"For Ukraine's Refugees, Europe Opens Doors That Were Shut to Others

Thousands of Ukrainians will end up in countries led by nationalist governments that have been reluctant to welcome refugees in the past."

lets demonize people taking in refugees. nice angle!

LilCerberus

Quote from: lester1/2jr on February 26, 2022, 05:01:32 PM
^ well, considering recent history, we might have been better off with a communist Afghanistan being paid for and administered by Russia


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/26/us/politics/ukraine-europe-refugees.html?referringSource=articleShare 


Quote"For Ukraine's Refugees, Europe Opens Doors That Were Shut to Others

Thousands of Ukrainians will end up in countries led by nationalist governments that have been reluctant to welcome refugees in the past."

lets demonize people taking in refugees. nice angle!

I can't read this article.
It says I need a subscription.
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
The world runs off money, even for those with a warped sense of what the world is.