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The Crazy SOB Actually Did it!

Started by indianasmith, February 23, 2022, 11:16:30 PM

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lester1/2jr

Well, China made all sorts of moves in Hong kong (RIP) while he was POTUS. He bombed General Soleimani and Iran responded by... not changing anything about their strategy re Iraq and also ramping up their nuclear efforts.

China Russia and Iran are ancient countries who have stuck around for a reason. Trump and Biden are blips on their radar.


best case scenario now would be if Russia agreed to pull back in return of a guarentee that Ukraine not be admitted into NATO. Can Biden and his shifty sec state Blinken pull that off? I doubt it but not impossible

LilCerberus

Trump didn't have the United states dependent on Russian oil.
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Think Biden'll Wag The Dog for Burisma?
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ER

Quote from: lester1/2jr on February 24, 2022, 11:15:21 PM
Well, China made all sorts of moves in Hong kong (RIP) while he was POTUS. He bombed General Suleiman and Iran responded by... not changing anything about their strategy re Iraq and also ramping up their nuclear efforts.

China Russia and Iran are ancient countries who have stuck around for a reason. Trump and Biden are blips on their radar.


best case scenario now would be if Russia agreed to pull back in return of a guarentee that Ukraine not be admitted into NATO. Can Biden and his shifty sec state Blinken pull that off? I doubt it but not impossible

Unfortunately Iran did a lot in response to the killing of Soleimani. Much more than made the 6:30 news.
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LilCerberus

Borrowed from another site.

Make no mistake- The US imposing financial sanctions on Russia while at the same time continuing to purchasing millions in oil from Russia makes the sanctions nothing more than a publicity stunt and that action by the US is dumber than anything Russia is currently doing.  The US is funding the murder of Ukrainians tonight.
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RCMerchant

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 ^Yeah, I've seen some of the webpages you site. Hoo boy, break out the tin foil.  :lookingup:

Russia is bombing the Ukraine. People are dying.

Yet here you talk mumbo jumbo s**t about the US. What a patriot!
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RCMerchant

Quote from: LilCerberus on February 24, 2022, 11:18:32 PM
Trump didn't have the United states dependent on Russian oil.

The US is not dependent on Russian oil whatsoever. 7% was imported from Russia. 30% from Canada. Most of our oil comes from right here.

And you got balls to even mention Trump's name in connection with Russia, with his recent appalling comments.
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RCMerchant

Whats also sad about this mess is many Russian citizens want nothing to do with the war. Protesters are hitting the streets in Moscow, St.Petersburg, and other cities.  :bluesad:

I'd like to see Putin riding shirtless leading the charge!
f**king war pig.  :hatred:
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Newt

Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 24, 2022, 10:24:12 PM
POOtin is working off of a 20th century playbook.  It's a disaster that can only worsen.  God help the people on the ground. 

This.  Anyone else having Cold War flashbacks?  It is very odd to me that this seems to be such a blind spot for so many.

Putin wants his Empire back and he regards NATO as an empire in competition with him.

I don't think there is any question about his sanity.  He's NQR in his psyche.  That is the scariest part.
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Alex

Quote from: Newt on February 25, 2022, 08:07:46 AM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on February 24, 2022, 10:24:12 PM
POOtin is working off of a 20th century playbook.  It's a disaster that can only worsen.  God help the people on the ground. 

This.  Anyone else having Cold War flashbacks?  It is very odd to me that this seems to be such a blind spot for so many.

Putin wants his Empire back and he regards NATO as an empire in competition with him.

I don't think there is any question about his sanity.  He's NQR in his psyche.  That is the scariest part.

Unfortunately, he is a cold war relic and is stuck with that mindset. Ex-KGB who worked with the Stasi (by all accounts a wonderfully lovely bunch of people) in East Germany. I'd mentioned to Kristi last night that I thought this crap was all over with back in '92.
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A picture from my friend's facebook feed. I don't know the context as the translated caption doesn't make sense to me: "Kiev. Kirílívsʹka (former Frunze) under the bridge exit on Olena Telíg. The enemy of the drg broke through in the center, but got tickets for the cabzon concert. Glory to Ukraine!!!"

I fear one day soon she will not post and I won't know whether she's still alive or just without Internet.
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ER

Quote from: LilCerberus on February 25, 2022, 12:01:44 AM
Borrowed from another site.

Make no mistake- The US imposing financial sanctions on Russia while at the same time continuing to purchasing millions in oil from Russia makes the sanctions nothing more than a publicity stunt and that action by the US is dumber than anything Russia is currently doing.  The US is funding the murder of Ukrainians tonight.

Insane as this sounds, it's true, Russian oil is still flowing, and it is funding Putin's horror show.

I am encouraged by the number of Russians protesting what Putin is doing.
What does not kill me makes me stranger.

LilCerberus

Quote from: RCMerchant on February 25, 2022, 01:16:54 AM
Quote from: LilCerberus on February 24, 2022, 11:18:32 PM
Trump didn't have the United states dependent on Russian oil.

The US is not dependent on Russian oil whatsoever. 7% was imported from Russia. 30% from Canada. Most of our oil comes from right here.

And you got balls to even mention Trump's name in connection with Russia, with his recent appalling comments.

Most of our oil came from "here" during the Trump Administration.
Biden shut down domestic production for green stuff that doesn't work, green stuff that is heavily dependent on polymers from oil.
"Science Fiction & Nostalgia have become the same thing!" - T Bone Burnett
The world runs off money, even for those with a warped sense of what the world is.

lester1/2jr

Trump certainly bent over backwards for Saudi Arabia, who are worse than Putin and are doing a ukraine invasion to their neighbor Yemen on a daily basis

Allhallowsday

Quote from: lester1/2jr on February 25, 2022, 02:48:09 PM
Trump certainly bent over backwards for Saudi Arabia, who are worse than Putin and are doing a ukraine invasion to their neighbor Yemen on a daily basis
You are right, a long standing stain on America. 

Speaking anecdotally, we Northeast Americans are much more closely involved with Europe as a culture.  I spent 10 years living among Ukrainians and their Orthodox churches in Manville, NJ.  My oldest friend is Ukrainian and her family are getting updates from family still there.  Families in subways seeking shelter from missiles... Any war exposes pigs.  War pigs. 
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