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Zardoz (1974) on TCM Underground tonight Dec 3 2am

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December 02, 2022, 10:44:35 PM
Zardoz (1974) on TCM Underground tonight Dec 3 2am

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Allhallowsday

#1
December 03, 2022, 02:22:28 PM Last Edit: December 03, 2022, 04:10:18 PM by Allhallowsday
When I joined this forum, ZARDOZ was legendary here.  And reviled.  

It's BAD alright; I watched all of it last night.  It just ain't that clever, and it's mostly boring.  Implausible.  Silly.  Kinda cheapo.  THOSE COSTUMES!  It's like an explosion at the Babushka Kitty Kat Klub garage sale.  

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Morpheus, the unwoke.

#2
December 03, 2022, 04:59:16 PM
It's an 'art film' to be sure.

It gets ragged on for the line 'the gun is good, the penis is evil.' But between a gun and a penis which is easier to show in media?
They will come back, come back again, As long as the red earth rolls. He never wasted a leaf or a tree. Do you think he would squander souls?" ― Ruyard Kipling

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Allhallowsday

#3
December 03, 2022, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: Morpheus, the unwoke. on December 03, 2022, 04:59:16 PM
It's an 'art film' to be sure...

It's a "fart film" to be sure.   :thumbup:
If you want to view paradise . . . simply look around and view it!

Morpheus, the unwoke.

#4
December 03, 2022, 08:56:38 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on December 03, 2022, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: Morpheus, the unwoke. on December 03, 2022, 04:59:16 PM
It's an 'art film' to be sure...

It's a "fart film" to be sure.   :thumbup:

Eh,I kinda like it a bit. It's definitely weird.
They will come back, come back again, As long as the red earth rolls. He never wasted a leaf or a tree. Do you think he would squander souls?" ― Ruyard Kipling

We all come from the goddess and to her we shall return, like a drop of rain flowing to the ocean.

Allhallowsday

#5
December 03, 2022, 09:42:59 PM
Quote from: Morpheus, the unwoke. on December 03, 2022, 08:56:38 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on December 03, 2022, 06:36:33 PM
Quote from: Morpheus, the unwoke. on December 03, 2022, 04:59:16 PM
It's an 'art film' to be sure...
It's a "fart film" to be sure.   :thumbup:

Eh,I kinda like it a bit. It's definitely weird.

I kinda like it too.  It's definitely tacky.
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chainsaw midget

#6
December 03, 2022, 10:03:00 PM
It's tacky in a very unique and artistic way.

ralfy

#7
December 03, 2022, 10:03:18 PM
Fascinating movie, especially the ending with Beethoven's 7th. Also, bewildering points about immortality.

Allhallowsday

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December 04, 2022, 12:42:46 AM Last Edit: December 04, 2022, 12:46:29 AM by Allhallowsday
Quote from: ralfy on December 03, 2022, 10:03:18 PM
Fascinating movie, especially the ending with Beethoven's 7th. Also, bewildering points about immortality.

Parts are fascinating but I found it mostly boring... and bewildering especially when Eternals are shot to death painfully, begging for it, running away.   Wtf?  
The ending with the cave gurus meditating birth, aging, skeletons... made the whole damned thing worth sweating thru.  Thanks for pointing out what that wonderful music was!  

http://youtu.be/KbNGklNz8Yk 

https://youtu.be/KbNGklNz8Yk
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Trevor

#9
December 04, 2022, 06:36:48 AM
And Sir Sean Connery in a red thong  :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout:
We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

LilCerberus

#10
December 04, 2022, 01:48:23 PM
The Brits trying to be Jodorowsky?
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Allhallowsday

#11
December 04, 2022, 02:41:42 PM
Quote from: LilCerberus on December 04, 2022, 01:48:23 PM
The Brits trying to be Jodorowsky?
BOORMAN doesn't need to try to be JODOROWSKY. 
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ralfy

#12
December 05, 2022, 08:54:04 PM
The point about Jodorowsky reminds me of his dreams for Dune:

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Rev. Powell

#13
December 07, 2022, 09:05:05 AM
Boorman made ZARDOZ after he couldn't get the rights to "Lord of the Rings." He came back a few years later with an epic fantasy that was actually good: EXCALIBUR.

If you listen to his DVD commentary you'll get the idea that he figured out the film was a mess while he was making it and tried (semi-successfully) to turn it into a campy comedy. Thus, the floating head introduction he added stating the film was "rich in irony and highly satirical..."

https://youtu.be/ezT7P970Bw4

Boorman actually did a masterful job of salvaging a hugely entertaining bad movie out of what he originally intended to be a profound, philosophical piece. He also made another entertaining bad movie, EXORCIST 2. He's so talented that even when he misfires badly he approaches greatness.
I'll take you places the hand of man has not yet set foot...

chainsaw midget

#14
December 08, 2022, 08:01:46 AM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on December 07, 2022, 09:05:05 AM
Boorman actually did a masterful job of salvaging a hugely entertaining bad movie out of what he originally intended to be a profound, philosophical piece. He also made another entertaining bad movie, EXORCIST 2. He's so talented that even when he misfires badly he approaches greatness.
That's quite a talent right there. 
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