Think before you speak...

[Chadzilla]

While watching a portion of The Alien Legacy on AMC, I saw Sigourney Weaver, evidently a gun control advocate, hemming and hawing about the weapons in Aliens.  "I think there are better ways to handle a situation."

Against the Aliens?  Uh, what...a vigorous leaflet campaign?  Chanting?  Pickets?

I know that she didn't mean it that way, but in the context that the comment was presented...sheesh.

[Fearless Freep]

I know...she could dash off a heartfelt letter to the editor...

[Dano]

Maybe that's why there were no guns in #3.  She was doing some kind of lame MacGuyver thing.  Of course she did carry a gun in Resurrection, and threw a tantrum with it in the genetics lab.  I guess her principles have a price.  Kind of like gun-control advocate Rosie O'Donnell who shilled for K-Mart, the biggest seller of guns in the country.

[Fearless Freep]

Think before you speak...

She's an *actress*, someone else gets *paid* to tell them one to say,  they just have to emote...and they get to *practice* a lot, first

:)

[Fearless Freep]

Maybe that's why there were no guns in #3

The survival rate wasn't much better..wonder if that says anything...either way?

[Dano]

The survival rate wasn't much better..wonder if that says anything...either way?
*****  There was only ONE alien in #3.  If they'd had Vasquez there the movie would have been 15 minutes long!

[J.R.]

I think it's safe to say most movie stars are not on the bright side. Also, Hollywood is about as far left as you can get, so put both of those together and you have some truly insipid statements. "Guns are really bad, and should be illegal, except the ones my bodyguards carry."

[Creepozoid]

Honestly, who the hell listens to a political statement made by a movie/tv star? Most of these people never graduated from high school, get busted for bar fights (and many other things), and burn throgh marriages like a hot rod through regular unleaded.

[J.R.]

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In our celebrity-obsessed culture the numbers might be frightening.

[Squishy]

Yeah, Hollywood celebrities bite. Look at that old actor popping up at NRA rallies, waving his rifle and grunting about his cold dead hands, every time there's a memorial service for school-shooting victims...what a jerk, huh?

Ah, the Good Ole Days. Remember when G. Gordon Liddy publicly advocated shooting American law enforcement personnel in the head? What a superpatriot!

Note: Two keys words in Chadzilla's original post--"evidently" and "context"--relate to the subject line in the most ironic manner.

"Too bad that all the people who know how to run this country are all busy driving taxis and cutting hair."
--George Burns

[Squishy]

Afterthought: I watched a portion of that same AMC program today--the "Alien 3" segment--and Sigourney Weaver (co-pro on "Alien 3") pointed out that, unlike the first movie, everyone in "3" was trapped in an enclosed area with this monster BUT WITH NO CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS of any kind. She did not present nor otherwise describe this as an advantage or position of moral superiority.

Uh.

"Most of these people never graduated from high school, get busted for bar fights (and many other things), and burn throgh marriages like a hot rod through regular unleaded."

Reality check!! Quick show of hands: how many people here are in Mensa? Sh'yeah, right...and what with her eighteen arrests for public intoxication, five divorces, seven kids born out of wedlock, webbed toes, and single-digit IQ, Sigourney Weaver has NO business whatever expressing an opinion in public... :)

[Fearless Freep]

Sigourney Weaver has as much right as anyone else to state her opinions as anyone else.

Her celebrity status gives her the opportunity to have those opinions aired publically more than most people.

That opportunity does not mean her opinions should be taken any more (or less) seriously than anyone else simply for that opportunity afforded her.  

She has an opinion, she can voice it.  *shrug* Take it on it's merits, based on the stregth of the arguments, not on her position as a celebrity.

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I'm somewhat amused that the movie industry is one of the few industries where almost all female employees are pretty much required to take of their clothes in front of their bosses* in order to further their career.  Such required behavior would not be tolerated in any other profession.  I'm sorta suprised there's not more protest about this from the more socially active in Hollywood**  Given what actually goes on in the movie industry in regards to human social issues, it's very hard to take seriously what any of them say about social issues



*and complete strangers, and be filmed doing it, for public distribution.

** To say nothing of the racial and ethnic stereotyping of blacks, hispanics, and asians.

[Chadzilla]

That be me! :-)

Squishy wrote:
>
>  
> Note: Two keys words in Chadzilla's original
> post--"evidently" and "context"--relate to the subject line
> in the most ironic manner.
>

[Chadzilla]

Squishy wrote:
>
> Afterthought: I watched a portion of that same AMC program
> today--the "Alien 3" segment--and Sigourney Weaver (co-pro on
> "Alien 3") pointed out that, unlike the first movie, everyone
> in "3" was trapped in an enclosed area with this monster BUT
> WITH NO CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS of any kind. She did not present
> nor otherwise describe this as an advantage or position of
> moral superiority.
>

It was a direction I had no problem with, it handled the situation differently than the first two movies, so I was all for it.

> Reality check!! Quick show of hands: how many people here are
> in Mensa?

Not me, that's for sure.  I'll honestly admit for all to read...I never passed my college Entry Level Mathematics Exam, had to have it waived (I was an English major).  Hell, I even failed Algebra in High School.

> ..and what with her eighteen
> arrests for public intoxication, five divorces, seven kids
> born out of wedlock, webbed toes, and single-digit IQ,
> Sigourney Weaver has NO business whatever expressing an
> opinion in public... :)

Ms. Weaver has every right to express her opinion in public, in private, wherever.  Freedom of Speech, I'm all for it.  I just found the placement of her comment within the context of the documentary humorous as that her statement was presented in such a way (not intended, granted) that made it seem as if she were addressing the situation in the movie.  The production clip where Weaver goes from being in character to herself is priceless (she's standing there, pulse rifle and flamethrower in hand, looking ready to kick ass and take names when the director yells CUT, she then quickly lifts her hands and flaps them in a 'Yuck, take it away." and crew members remove the weapon from her shoulders.

Maybe it should be "think when you edit"

As much as I love rootin' tootin' fantasy shoot 'em ups ("Do you feel lucky?") I admit that I am also a gun control advocate (although I do support the right to privately own hunting rifles and/or target pistols).  So I fully agree with Ms. Weaver's statement in real life situations.  More than one person has made comments about how unrealistic it was that Mel Gibson's family in Signs had no weapons (shotgun, rifle, pistol, SOMETHING), but I never gave it a second thought, being a person with no weapons (well, an aluminium baseball bat) in his house (they scare my wife to death).

My dad had a gun when I was kid (.38 I believe) although he believed he had everything well hidden, my brother and I knew exactly where he kept it (nightstand) and were they kept the bullets (Mom's jewelry box).  One day I played with it, he got rid of it and never regretted it.

Evidently?  Well, she IS I guess, I just used evidently incorrectly because I had either forgotten she was or had never knew and could not think of a better way to phrase it.

I await sarcastic responses, insults, and flame posts.  :-)

[Fearless Freep]

Evidently? Well, she IS I guess, I just used evidently incorrectly because I had either forgotten she was or had never knew.

"Evidently" is correct because that just means that there is evidence of something.   Whether the evidence os flimsy or strong, you can still use the term