Pot

[Svengoolie 3]

I don't do any intoxicants.  Period.  Ever.
That being said, alcohol kills WAY more people than all illegal drugs combined.
I have become a very reluctant advocate for legalization.

Honestly this is a very near perfect summation of my feelings.

I'm all for pot legalization,  not so enthusiastic about cocaine but hell, it's basically super caffeine.

Heroin,  I don't  really want to legalize  it  as legwlmopiods are bad enough.

As for meth,  sorry,  can't get behind legalizing a drug the nazis created and the american and British military rejected as too harmful.

[ER]

Hey, I got an idea, let's make a drug that stops the impulse to get high and then hook everyone on it. Sound like a plan?

[Svengoolie 3]

Hey, I got an idea, let's make a drug that stops the impulse to get high and then hook everyone on it. Sound like a plan?

No, eliminating freedom to choose is not a solution.

[Rev. Powell]

I've always been a proponent of the Portuguese model for drug policy. Basically, make all drug USE a misdemeanor but keep drug TRAFFICKING illegal, spend the money you save not prosecuting users into rehabilitation and recovery services. Logical, and it seems to be working.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it

[RCMerchant]

Hey, I got an idea, let's make a drug that stops the impulse to get high and then hook everyone on it. Sound like a plan?

Hey-I got an idea! How about YOU smoke a joint and mellow out, man?
Don't step on the grass....!

[El Misfit]

Hey, I got an idea, let's make a drug that stops the impulse to get high and then hook everyone on it. Sound like a plan?

And give Big Pharma more money to corrupt the government? No.

[AoTFan]

I'm starting to think that pot causes glaucoma, because every place the legalizes pot for medical use there's suddenly a huge spike in people with that condition...

Weird, huh?

[ER]

Hey, I got an idea, let's make a drug that stops the impulse to get high and then hook everyone on it. Sound like a plan?

Hey-I got an idea! How about YOU smoke a joint and mellow out, man?
Don't step on the grass....!

I thought it was just Sven, but come on, you guys really didn't get the irony in my suggestion to eliminate drug use by hooking everyone on drugs? Really?  

[RCMerchant]

Hey, I got an idea, let's make a drug that stops the impulse to get high and then hook everyone on it. Sound like a plan?

Hey-I got an idea! How about YOU smoke a joint and mellow out, man?
Don't step on the grass....!

I thought it was just Sven, but come on, you guys really didn't get the irony in my suggestion to eliminate drug use by hooking everyone on drugs? Really?  

Yer right. But sometimes I can't tell when your being serious or just plain ignorant.

[ER]

Hey, I got an idea, let's make a drug that stops the impulse to get high and then hook everyone on it. Sound like a plan?

Hey-I got an idea! How about YOU smoke a joint and mellow out, man?
Don't step on the grass....!

I thought it was just Sven, but come on, you guys really didn't get the irony in my suggestion to eliminate drug use by hooking everyone on drugs? Really?  

Yer right. But sometimes I can't tell when your being serious or just plain ignorant.

You meant kidding or being ignorant, I hope.

[Svengoolie 3]

I've always been a proponent of the Portuguese model for drug policy. Basically, make all drug USE a misdemeanor but keep drug TRAFFICKING illegal, spend the money you save not prosecuting users into rehabilitation and recovery services. Logical, and it seems to be working.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it

Hmm, i sorta like this but the issue is that we don't penalize the pharma industry for pushing opioids on people, which they did for decades leading to the opioid epidemic.


Let's see, sell pot, go to prison and have your life crushed by a felony conviction. Push addictive opioids on the public thru doctors, commercials, etc, and become a billionaire...

Sorry, my stomach just turns too much at that.

Until we go after big pharma and maybe imprison a few corporate overlords (Yeah, right) I just have a hard time condemning the people selling honest driugs to people who know what they're buying.

[El Misfit]

I've always been a proponent of the Portuguese model for drug policy. Basically, make all drug USE a misdemeanor but keep drug TRAFFICKING illegal, spend the money you save not prosecuting users into rehabilitation and recovery services. Logical, and it seems to be working.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it

I would be for that, but the road through rehab is an expensive one, especially in states that slash rehab funding. Speaking from experience here.

[Svengoolie 3]

I've always been a proponent of the Portuguese model for drug policy. Basically, make all drug USE a misdemeanor but keep drug TRAFFICKING illegal, spend the money you save not prosecuting users into rehabilitation and recovery services. Logical, and it seems to be working.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it

I would be for that, but the road through rehab is an expensive one, especially in states that slash rehab funding. Speaking from experience here.

Hang in there guy, it's worth it.

[ER]

I used to argue for drug decriminalization, and maybe there is pragmatism there, but it will never be the more moral stance, even taking into consideration the failure and corruption of the war on drugs. I'd like to think morals count for something, even if only as an ideal trampled underfoot by the maelstrom of life, and having a government selling drugs is not moral; not when we know the poison drugs represent to society.

Some people feel a need to get high; it's in their makeup. It is a sickness, a flaw, a dooming fault almost certain to lessen their ability to enjoy the benefits of a normal life, happiness and self-development. Should they be ashamed of their flaw? Perhaps, perhaps not, but to give in to it and seek society's blessing for it is also ridiculous and I don't understand the argument that there is a right to intoxication. That is utter BS.

Invariably when someone spends life getting high others step in to take up the slack for that person in some way or another, meaning drug-users are to an extent parasitic, undertaking an activity that is at its very best harmless and more often damaging in incalculable ways, rotting the user, those who step up for her, and greater society.

When you are high you are not functioning at a normal level; you are impaired. An impaired person is a danger to herself and to others. What right does anyone have to be endangering? Much of the misery and loss, crime, homelessness, so many of the problems out there have drug use (I'm counting alcohol there) at their heart, and whether something is illegal or legal does not change the irresponsibility of setting aside a portion of a lifetime and devoting it to intoxication. Children are innocent and frequent victims of the drug use of others. in saying this I'm not talking about incarcerated parents, I am talking about the erosion of life related to drugs. There's never a moment when life pauses and it's all right to be high, not in an unpredictable world filled with interdependence.

Who among us does not have a personal experience with a drunk driving loss or know someone who overdosed, or know someone victimized by drug crime? Anyone not able to check at least one of those boxes?

Celebrating intoxication and drug culture is especially gross. Metaphorically or literally drugs are the devil's best tool and rightly or wrongly in the future I think it will be likely the genes responsible for addiction will be targeted by eugenicists. For now we see a legal accommodation of those so weak they feel justified in seeking out the pacifiers of drugs, and at its heart the arguments for legalization are about the same as those arguments for legalizing pedophilia: "we have a need, we can't help it, we want to do it."

There is political power in numbers but numbers alone do not make something right. If fifty million rapists demanded the right to sexually assault, rape would still be wrong. A majority polled saying legalizing drugs is all right because it eliminates legal entanglements for something others will just be doing anyway....is that automatically right, just because most people want it?

[El Misfit]

I've always been a proponent of the Portuguese model for drug policy. Basically, make all drug USE a misdemeanor but keep drug TRAFFICKING illegal, spend the money you save not prosecuting users into rehabilitation and recovery services. Logical, and it seems to be working.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it

I would be for that, but the road through rehab is an expensive one, especially in states that slash rehab funding. Speaking from experience here.

Hang in there guy, it's worth it.

Lel, not me but my sister. Worst part is that while in rehab for drug use she got addicted to drugs to make her stop being on drugs. :/