World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE)

[Venomx73]

Ha... I called Piper too.

I just watched it on youtube... it was fun to see Slater get trashed. He was so annoying.

Btw Cyndi Lauper looks good still.

[HappyGilmore]

The best part of that horrible segment was at the end, with Michael Cole apologizing for a horrible segment.

[Venomx73]

I was watching rise and fall of WCW last night... I had no idea they were killin WWE so badly.

I used to switch between the channels - RAW / NITRO then back again lol (yup, good old days)

well with that said - Imo Vince Russo and Nash trashed the place.

[HappyGilmore]

Russo, and Ed Ferrara actually increased ratings and created some stars.

But when they started a 'writing committee' and Arquette and Russo won the belt...nail in the coffin.

[HappyGilmore]

Nash killed it.

Goldberg had that run, won the belt. If they were smart, they could've had that match between Hogan and Goldberg on ppv, and made millions instead of on free tv.

Then Hogan allows Nash to win the belt in exchange for Nash losing it to Hogan and reforming nWo.

[Venomx73]

Everybody said they had a bad feeling when Russo ran the place...

(most people thought it was a conspiracy)

But you're right... in the end - Nash killed it.

[JaseSF]

Guys like Nash and Hogan running the place and not allowing anyone to really go over them aside from a rare few they knew wouldn't get over in the end - that was the death of WCW, that and not allowing any new stars to grow aside from Goldberg who was kind of an unexpected fluke. At that point in his career, Hogan should have been jobbing to a whole bunch of guys to help build new stars. They really missed an opportunity with Bret Hart whom they could have called their "real world champion" ala Flair years before. But those established stars needed to be putting over some of the younger talent to give them the rub they needed to reach the next level. Instead we just got beatdowns and domination by Hogan et al week after week. If they'd actually lost a few matches here and there to guys aside from Flair and Luger and to some of the younger guys working their butts off in great matches week after week like Jericho and Eddie Guerrero, it could have probably had many more years than it did.

[HappyGilmore]

In Russo's defense, I do have to say that WCW was a mess way way before he even got there.

It's been stated before that the people running WCW had no foresight to how to properly produce a show.  They'd be going on the air live at 8:00, and by 7:45 all that was known was the first match of the show at 8:05.  This is a company that once paid to fly 80 wrestlers to an arena in Denver, only to utilize about 20 of them.  They then sent the other guys a paycheck for literally $0.00.

They were smart enough to hire guys like Jericho, Benoit, Malenko and Guerrero, but a full YEAR after they had their shot here in ECW.  But then never gave them any real storylines or chance to expand beyond mid-card status.  The first three months Russo ran the company, he immediately utilized Bret Hart, Eddie Guerrero, Shane Douglas, Rey Mysterio, Norman Smiley, Vampiro, Mike Awesome and a few other younger guys like Kidman who never had that chance.  And, ratings went up.  But, people in Turner's camp wanted the ratings to jump from 1.8 to what the WWF had, a 6.2.  It needs to build.  So he was ousted in favor of Nash.  Who immediately discontinued any story ideas and spotlighted DDP, Nash, Steiner, Flair, Bagwell and Sting.

[HappyGilmore]

Kurt Angle's a favorite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUORrfhX_6g
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Bret Hart, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWWyXIhKt8
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Sandman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ol6fDqR2I
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[Venomx73]

My top WWF favorites...

1. Undertaker
2. The Ultimate Warrior
3. Hulk Hogan
4. Mr. Perfect
4. Stone Cold
5. Sycho Sid
6. The Rock
7. Rick Rude



My top ECW favorites...

1. Taz
2. Sabu
3. RVD
4. Tommy Dreamer
5. "The Franchise" Shane Douglas
6. Pitbulls
7. NewJAck
8. Classic Dudley Boys w/ sign guy.



 

My top WCW favorites...

1. Classic NWO!
2. Macho Man
3. Crow looking Sting
4. Alex Wright
5. ( I have to think about it.)

[HappyGilmore]

Alex Wright was decent in the ring.

I can't really think of straight-WCW guys I liked, unless you go kinda old-school to the '80s when they had Dusty Rhodes, Funk, etc.

In the late '90s, the ones I liked were ex-WWF or ex-ECW.

[JaseSF]

WWF/WWE

1. Randy "Macho Man" Savage
2. Bret "Hitman" Hart
3. The Undertaker
4. CM Punk
5. Andre the Giant
6. "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig
7. Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorff
8. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper
9. Hulk Hogan
10. The Rock

HM: Magnificent Muraco, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, Kurt Angle

WCW:

1. Big Van Vader
2. Diamond Dallas Page
3. Booker T.
4. Sting
5. Lord Steven Regal
6. Ron Simmons
7. Ricky Steamboat
8. Goldberg
9. Scott Steiner
10. Rick Steiner

HM: Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit

NWA:

1. Ric Flair
2. Sting
3. Barry Windham
4. Tully Blanchard
5. Arn Anderson
6. Dusty Rhodes
7. Nikita Koloff
8. Ricky Steamboat
9. Terry Funk
10. Wahoo McDaniel

HM: Road Warriors, Lex Luger, Magnum T.A., Ivan Koloff, Dick Murdoch, Steve Williams, Mike Rotunda

AWA:

1. Nick Bockwinkel
2. Rick Martel
3. Larry Zbyszko
4. Curt Hennig
5. Mad Dog Vachon
6. Baron Von Raschke
7. The Crusher
8. Ken Patera
9. Crusher Jerry Blackwell
10. Bobby Duncum

HM: Greg Gagne, Verne Gagne, The Blackjacks, Mr. Saito, The Road Warriors, Adrian Adonis, Jesse Ventura, Jim Brunzell

ECW:

1. Rob Van Dam
2. Taz
3. Sabu
4. Raven
5. Terry Funk
6. Shane Douglas
7. Bam Bam Bigelow
8. Tommy Dreamer
9. Jerry Lynn
10. 2 Cold Scorpio

HM: The Sandman, The Dudley Boyz, Public Enemy, New Jack, The Eliminators. The Pit Bulls, Steve Corino, Rhino, Tajiri

[HappyGilmore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOBIG2fsgnI
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[Venomx73]

Ok. How about Favorite PPVs?

WWF.
Wrestlemania 6 - Hulk Hogan vs. Ultimate Warrior
1990 Survivor Series - Undertaker's Debut

ECW.
Hardcore Heaven (1996)
Barely Legal (1997)
Heat Wave (1994)
November to Remember (1993)

WCW.
Halloween Havoc 1998 - Hogan vs. Warrior

[JaseSF]

Should probably also add the following:

UWF:

1. Steve "Dr. Death" Williams
2. Chris Adams
3. Sting
4. "Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert
5. Terry Taylor
6. Rick Steiner
7. Terry Gordy
8. Michael Hayes
9. The One Man Gang
10. The Missing Link

World Class:

1. Kerry Von Erich
2. Jerry Lawler
3. Kevin Von Erich
4. David Von Erich
5. Michael Hayes
6. Terry Gordy
7. Jimmy Garvin
8. Chris Adams
9. Iceman Parsons
10. Bruiser Brody

HM: Fantastics, Midnight Express, Samoan Swat Team, Abdullah the Butcher, One Man Gang, Kamala

Calgary Stampede:

1. Owen Hart
2. Makhan Singh
3. Dynamite Kid
4. The Great Gama
5. Vulkan Singh/Gary Albright
6. Jason the Terrible
7. Brian Pillman
8. Steve Blackman
9. Bad News Allen
10. Chris Benoit

HM: Bruce Hart, The Mongolian Stomper, "Lethal" Larry Cameron, Davey Boy Smith, Bret Hart, Bulldog Bob Brown, Kerry Brown, Leo Burke, The Cuban Assassin, Jerry Morrow, Ron Ritchie, Johnny Smith, "Rotten" Ron Starr, Biff Wellington

Favourite PPVs eh?

WWF/WWE

WWF Wrestling Classic
WWF/WWE Wrestlemania III, IV, VII, VIII, X, XII, XIII, XV, X-7, X8, XIX, XX, 23, XXIV, XXV
WWF Survivor Series 1987, 1988, 1992
WWF Summerslam 1988, 1992
WWF King of the Ring 1993, 1998
WWF Bad Blood 1997
One Night Stand 2005, 2006
WWF/WWE Royal Rumble 1992, 1993, 2000, 2003, 2004
In Your House: Canadian Stampede
WWE No Way Out 2008


NWA/WCW

NWA Chi-Town Rumble '89
NWA WrestleWar '89, 1990, 1991, 1992
WCW SuperBrawl I, II, III, IV, V, VI
WCW Spring Stampede 1994
WCW Slamboree 1993,  1994, 1995
NWA/WCW Great American Bash 1989, 1992
WCW Beach Blast 1992, 1993
NWA/WCW Halloween Havoc 1989, 1998
NWA/WCW Starrcade 1988, 1989, 1993, 1995, 1997

I've got to go right now but I'll continue with ECW and TNA ones later...