Question on The Matrix Reloaded

[Ash]

!!!POSSIBLE SPOILER!!!

Near the end of the film when Neo meets "The Architect", what exactly did The Architect mean when he went off on his ramble about rebuilding The Matrix multiple times?

Most of what he said went WAY over my head and was very confusing!

It almost seemed as if he said that Zion itself wasn't real and that the machines have destroyed it multiple times.

What was he getting at?



Post Edited (05-19-03 22:36)

[Johnny Blister]

Since  Matrix Reloaded is released in my country this Thurday,I gotta say:

What the hell are you taking about?

[Ash]

That's why I typed "POSSIBLE SPOILER".

This thread was meant only for those who have seen the film.

I should've put that down on the original post.

[Paquita]

I think what he was talking about was supposed to confuse you.  Neo had to decide whether he was lying or if it was true and only kept a secret by the survivors to keep people from losing hope.   He was saying that  the city was destroyed 5 times before but humanity wasn't wiped out because it was saved by "the one".  Each time only enough people were saved by the one to repopulate and rebuild the city.  I think he also meant that each time there was a war and the city was destroyed he tried to perfect the matrix to keep the one from foiling the plot to wipe out life that wasnt plugged in to the matrix.

i hope that helps! i was kind of confused too!!

what i want to know is at the end when Neo could kill the sentinel if it was becasue he was in still in the matrix or a differnet matrix where he still had his matrix superpowers or did he just get matrix superpowers real life?!?

love colleen

[raj]

Paquita wrote:


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> what i want to know is at the end when Neo could kill the
> sentinel if it was becasue he was in still in the matrix or a
> differnet matrix where he still had his matrix superpowers or
> did he just get matrix superpowers real life?!?
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> love colleen

That, I suspect, is what we'll find out in the conclusion.

I looked at the Architect as the god figure, who created the Matriz & the city & all.  Each time, he doesn't quite like it, so he crumples it up and starts over.

BTW, if I were Neo, I'd tell him to f' off; if he wants the Matrix destroyed, he'll have to do it himself and not pass the job off on someone else-- what, he wants a clear conscience or something?  Do your own damn dirty work, I'm off to save a hot chick.

[Mr_Vindictive]

My interpretation is that Neo is the new messiah.  Of course he is God in the Matrix, but I think he also has super powers in the real world as well.  



Did anyone stay and watch the trailer for Revolutions!?!?!?  KICK ASS!

[wuggles451]

the real world is also a matrix thats why smith could pass into a "real world" human body. "the prophecy" morpheous keeps blabbing about was invented by machines they think the prophecy wil lead to liberation but it really has them trapped in a life cycle they cant escape .... the matrix world , the real world none of it is real maybe neo is just a computer program himself like the keymaker or the oricle..... whoa

[Funk, E.]

Wuggles has my bet. The "real world" is amatrix set up to keep the "enlightened" prone humans in line by giving them a reality 2.0 that lets them think they have the leg up on the machines.

[Soul Inflcted]

I would have to agree..
The Architect said "Zion" had been destroyed six some times..So Zion is itself a Matrix...So there is a third level of reality (the real one?) that we haven't seen yet...I always had problems with the premise from the first Matrix about keeping people in suspended animation through and feeding them a false reality just to get from them some cerebral energy..Maybe now that isn't what is really going on after all.

[Susan]

SPOILER ALERT>>>>>>>



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I agree about Zion being part of the Matrix- when neo stops the sentinels at the end in Zion with his "will"...as if he were IN the matrix...it seems to clue you in that  he had a little revelation which is why he turned around to test it when he should have been running for his life. I think he made the choice to believe what the architect said may be true...and that revelation takes you back to what spoonboy said. That to bend the spoon you must realize the truth - there is no spoon. Didn't it make you wonder why Neo was given the spoon as a gift? Why would you need to remind him of something he already knows about the Matrix.

That to me indicates that the real world isn't the real world after all. Concept reminds me of "the thirteenth floor". When you think about it, the levels of the matrix could be infinity. Maybe they'll never know what the real world is. Maybe they aren't real after all. ;-)



Post Edited (05-26-03 12:09)

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The Architect gives him "two" choices when Neo visits him, but I wondered if staying in the room with the Architect was also a choice - surely if he stays in the room he won't choose anything - hence free will.

Also, if Neo is "superman" - why doesn't he just go back in time to the start of the matrix - warn his past-self or even fight the matrix from the start - assuming time in the matrix is relative to the "real" world - he could have a better chance of saving Zion.

[Evan3]

I always thought it would be funny if the Terminator wre the person who created the Matrix

"Hey, I needed the money, and a good film. Dont yell at me" in an Austrian accent.