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Question: Which is your favorite James Bond?
Sean Connery - 8 (42.1%)
George Lazenby - 1 (5.3%)
Roger Moore - 3 (15.8%)
Timothy Dalton - 2 (10.5%)
Pierce Brosnan - 3 (15.8%)
Daniel Craig - 2 (10.5%)
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« on: November 24, 2006, 10:52:27 PM »

CASINO ROYALE (2006) - This might be the best James Bond film ever. Daniel Craig plays the most rugged and agile Bond yet in this very good story that kinda starts us from the beginning of who James Bond is and how he got started. The action is tough much like in BOURNE IDENTITY. The card game was masterful as well. You'll also like the intro to this film. Like all Bond films this one has some neat art work at the beginning. This is now my favorite Bond and Bond film.

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2006, 11:05:06 PM »

Roger Moore was my favorite Bond.  Never really cared for Connery, though From Russia With Love was quite a nice piece.  Lazenby was pretty good in his one film (Diana Rigg was awesome too), and I liked Dalton in the South American drug dealer movie.   I completely lost interest in the franchise around the time of the second Brosnan film.  It really went from being a secret agent series for adults to a CGI super hero series for children.  And whoever thought it would be a good idea to include Judi Dench as the Mr. b***h character should be kicked square in the nuts.  She damned near ruined the franchise all by herself.
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2006, 01:00:02 AM »


I think Judi Dench was an inspired choice for M.  The original M was a crotchety ex navy type [I think] who was very formal and very much a traditionalist [from what I remember] and changing this character to a female put a new bent on how people reacted to her and her position, by placing a woman it what had always been the stereotypical 'male as leader' role, if that makes any sense.  The trouble with the series at that time was around how formulaic the series had become instead I suppose.

I'm really looking foward to Casino Royale, because the book itself had alot of the gritty, non-flashy type of suspense and action, and suits this new direction alot better.  It's no surprise that CR wasn't made in the latest Brosnan spat of films mainly because it wouldn't have suited the style they went for.

I've got tons of questions about what will happen and who will be in it, but I'll wait for it to come out [Dec 7] rather than ruin the fun!

But as for my favourite Bond, I suppose it depends on what type of Bond you go for: Brosnan was fun, and had charm, but wasn't too 'funny' like Moore [who kind of annoys me really: if you want to act like "The Saint'' just stay with the TV series] Dalton was the most harsh Bond, and seemed to be the most like the Bond in the novels [as in an Arsehole] and Lazenby did an ok job, but only had the one film to really get into it, and I would have been more interested to see how he developed in style.

Connery for the moment is my favourite, but only because he achieved a good balance in the character more than anything.  After Casino Royale we'll see, since I loved Layer Cake and think Craig will make a terrific Bond!

Anyways, this is the movie I've been looking foward to all year!  Can't wait!
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2006, 09:47:48 AM »

The previous M's (with certain exceptions) were annoyed with Bond, but I could always sense an undercurrent of friendly amusement and mutual respect in their annoyance.  Dench, on the other hand, seemed to genuinely and deeply despise Bond, on both a personal and professional level.  Her outright disdain for him was palpable.  Which is really odd considering he's saved the world on numerous occasions - such an appalling lack of respect for the man is inexcusable.  But at the same time we're supposed to believe that she really does respect and admire him, yadda yadda yadda.  Her performance just didn't work for me in any way, shape or form.

Just my opinion though :)
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2006, 11:13:09 AM »

I liked it a lot. It reminded me of the early Connery movies, before they were overcome with the gadgets. Craig is cold-blooded just like Connery was in those first films of the series. I could never stand Roger Moore because he may as well have been openly winking at the camera.

I think Lazenby's outing is actually one of the better films of the series. I've always felt Dalton was very underrated, he brought back Bond's dark side. Brosnan was good, but with Die Another Day they were heading back into Roger Moore's territory.

 Gotta love the last scene.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2006, 05:58:52 PM »

I voted for Brosnan.   Thumbup

Never cared for Connery, Moore or Dalton.  (hated Dalton in fact)
Never saw Lazenby's performance.

I thought "Goldeneye" was probably the best Bond film in my opinion and I loved "Tomorrow Never Dies".
But I agree that "The World Is Not Enough" and "Die Another Day" weren't the greatest.

Haven't seen Casino Royale yet.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2006, 06:00:14 PM »

I saw it over Thanksgiving.
I actually had stopped going to the Bond movies, the franchise was just tired.  I honestly don't remember if I saw the first Dalton one or not, I didn't see any of the Brosnan ones (though I did watch the tv show Pierce was on).  I did see all of the Roger Moore ones, but even as dense as I am, I could tell they had lost direction with Moonraker -- a bad guy vs. Marines shoot out in space?  That was utterly ridiculous.  007 stopped being about the story and was about the next explosion -- how to make it bigger -- and the newest gadgets.

So it was with some trepidation that I went; the kerfluffle about a blonde Bond, who maybe wasn't tough enough not helping either.
I was very pleasantly surprised.  The movie itself starts off with Bond earning his "00" status and while there are some explosions and gadgets they actually develop a story.  The characters are not cardboard cartoons but actual people, Judi Dench was an inspired choice I must say, and the background into James Bond and the ethics of killing are actually woven neatly into the film.

While it's still hard for me to wrap my head around a blonde Bond, I think the future of the franchise is in good hands.

PS -- Connery good
Lazenby:  underrated, though not stellar
Moore:  started out good, but the way was lost
Dalton:  haven't seen enough - incomplete
Brosnan:  diito - incomplete
Craig:  good.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2006, 06:15:16 PM »

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Moore:  started out good, but the way was lost
Ever seen For your Eyes Only? In my mind a throwback to From Russia with Love in the fact that the plot was finally shifting away from explosive world domination! Octop***y is one of the top overall just for everything.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2006, 11:21:50 PM »

Actually OCTOp***y was the very first James Bond film I ever saw and that was at the theater. Remember really enjoying the whole movie with Roger Moore as 007 and Maud Adams and her harem. Also the escape though the streets of Bombay (?) was fun and he finally gets away by throwing money in the streets blocking the bad guys.



Depends on your mood I suppose. Are you in the mood for a fun Bond or a tough Bond.
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2006, 09:45:45 AM »

I liked a lot the recent Casino Royale, too. Still, it sorts of annoy me that many critics and fans say it's original different or risky. No way! It's just the old Bond done right, what the Brosnan era should have been if the producers hadn't been so busy collecting their checks. Just look at the names of the writers and the director, they're all "veterans" from the Brosnan era.

Still, Casino Royale is very, very good. I was happy to see the relationship between Bond and M from another angle, and to notice here and there how some of Bond's trademarks were born (his misoginy, to name one). Hell, he is even given some backgorund here.

And yes, the action was satisfyingly brutal, and the camerawork more restrained. Rather than creating a "new" Bond what they have done is to turn the clock back to the Connery era. Works for me, though.

As for the other Bonds, I always pick one movie per actor. See, I tend to think of every actor's tenure as a separate universe. So, my favourite Bonds so far are (drum roll):

Connery era: From Russia with love. Gotta love when Bond is actually given some spying thing to do, specially if that means exotic locations and plenty of action. Danielle bianchi is as annoying as beautiful, but Robert Shaw makes a great villain.

Lazemby era: On her majesty's secret service. Oh well, a rather easy choice. But still one of the best if not the best Bond entry ever. Lazemby is a bit too stiff, but his Bond is both cynical and human. Here he falls in love and fights a Blofld more dangerous than ever. The action is also very good, way ahead of its time, and John Barry's score is brilliant.

Moore era: Live and let die. Less serious than Connery's films, but less jockey than the follow ups, it has enough exotic elements to keep everybody happy. There's even vodoo! A bit too long, but ono of Moore's best for sure.

Dalton: The living daylights. The first of Dalton's outings as Bond portrays him as too suave and youngish, something they would try to solve on the next one. Here, however, the accentuation of the comic-bookish feel of Bond's adventures works well and has some great action too. Also has some of the best director John Glen and musician John Barry ever did for the series.

Brosnan: The world is not enough. Brosnan's tenure is my less favourite, but for some reason here he was able to portray a more tough and burnout Bond than usual. The supporting actors are very well choosen (specially Sophie Marceau and Robert Carlyle) and the action is unusually brutal for a Brosnan Bond.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2007, 11:52:51 PM »

I just watched Casino Royale (we have kids, it takes us a while to get to the new stuff).

I thought it was impressively well done!  I loved the brutal action and the relative focus on character and not so much of the gadgets and action (although plenty of action).  Very well done, very well done.  I, for one, lost interest somewhere in the Dalton era, and I can't remember one scene of any of Brosnan's Bond movies.  (Not one -- seriously.)

But this one was a true entry in the franchise, and I'll be watching the next.. oh, yes.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2007, 12:32:59 AM »

I watched Casino Royale like 3 weeks ago and tried searching for this old thread but couldn't find it.   Question
Oh well...it's back now.

Awesome film!   Thumbup

I thought Craig kicked ass as Bond.   Smile
What a fantastic performance!

!!Slight Spoiler!!

The middle part of the movie where Bond plays that extremely high stakes game of poker was my favorite.
I love the game of poker and to watch Bond risk it all in a single game was great.
Especially when he gets poisoned and comes so close to actually dying and has to try and shock himself with the defibrillator.
That scene was absolutely riveting.

WATCH BOND GET POISONED Small | Large


!!End Slight Spoiler!!

I give it 3.5 stars out of 4.

If you haven't seen it yet...you should definitely check it out.


By the way...this entire thread should be moved to the "Good Movies" section


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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2007, 01:40:27 AM »



By the way...this entire thread should be moved to the "Good Movies" section



I agree.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2007, 05:44:24 AM »

Why didn't I see this in the theater?

What I've been wanting from the Bond series for a long time, gritty action, violence that looks painful, believeable plots, consequences.

I like what they did, they used the novel as a skeleton, and added plot elements that fit with the modern day, updated things where needed, but always kept the story as the focus. I even recognized lines of dialogue, and I read the book years ago. So glad they kept the line "the b***h is dead" in some form. Shows they were paying attention. Even kept the spirit of the torture scene, but made it work better visually, got to have Bond make his stand through the pain, but still ended it in the spirit (if not the letter) of the book.

I liked Dench, she was one of the few elements of the Brosnan years that I liked. Bond is a tool or weapon to her, he gets the job done but she maintains her distaste for how he does it and the kind of man he is. She has thrown around the word "dinosaur" before. Since this film is a prequel/reboot of sorts it helps to explain her dislike for him, he invades her personal life/inner sanctum like to get his job done. His methods are as messy as they are effective.

The only elemetn I'm iffy on is that the Vesper relationship shapes his later attitude for women. Bond here is in his thirties, young for the character, but not a man with unformed relationships and attitudes toward women. I could see the effect in a younger man, but I figure he's pretty far down the road in that regard when the film starts.

Loved how they worked the gun barrel image into the intro, gave it a context for once. It was always cool (except when I'd overanalyze it and wonder how the blood got into the barrel that way, jokingly), but for once there was a reason for it to be there.

Let's hope they can maintain the evergy and spirit of this one for several films, wonder if they'll adapt another novel next or go back to original stories. Will gadgets and Q make a return or not, I wonder. That part got way too cartoony.  I hope they get some good use out of Felix in other films also, Jeffrey Wright was a great choice.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2007, 09:50:57 AM »

Casino Royale is the most re-watchable Bond film ever.

I saw this in the theater and was blown away.  They played with the Bond movie formula and kept with the spirit of the novel (which I read shortly after seeing the movie).  It has arguably one of the best credit sequences (I wished there were more girls in it but it still rules).  I can't wait for the next Craig/Bond movie.

Best James Bond (IMO):

1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Brosnan
4. Moore
5. Dalton
6. Lazenby
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