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Question: Do you believe in gobal warming?
Yes, the sky is falling.
No, it's hog wash.
Jury is still out in my mind.
What's gobal warming?
Doesn't matter I'm not from Earth.

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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2007, 06:38:44 AM »

Yes. I also believe in flying saucers,ghosts,a secret society with a hidden agenda, and that I am not a short person,everyone else is too tall. Bluesad

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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2007, 10:02:52 PM »

Not that the world should all be driving automobiles and/or have washing machines.

And as long as we have to compete economically with other nations then nobody is going to stop polluting the enviroment. They must pollute in order to compete and survive. Good energy ideas will also be gobbled up by competing energy companies till they can learn to make a profit from better technology. It's just one more reason for one world goverment.

Here is interesting side fact about volcano's.  A natural polluter of the enviroment.
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2007, 09:53:21 AM »

Global-warming skeptics cite being 'treated like a pariah'

Scientists skeptical of climate-change theories say they are increasingly coming under attack -- treatment that may make other analysts less likely to present contrarian views about global warming.
    "In general, if you do not agree with the consensus that we are headed toward disaster, you are treated like a pariah," said William O'Keefe, chief executive officer of the Marshall Institute, which assesses scientific issues that shape public policy.
    "It's ironic that a field based on challenging unproven theories attacks skeptics in a very unhealthy way."
    Two climatologists in Democrat-leaning states, David Legates in Delaware and George Taylor in Oregon, have come under fire for expressing skepticism about the origins of climate change. Oregon Gov. Theodore R. Kulongoski is publicly seeking to strip Mr. Taylor, widely known as the state's climatologist, of his position because of his stance.
    "There has been a broad, concerted effort to intimidate and silence them," said Myron Ebell, director of energy and global-warming policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. "It's the typical politics of the hard left at work. I think these are real threats."
    CEI, which previously listed Mr. Legates as an "adjunct scholar," has published multiple reports questioning the science behind global-warming theories and has been criticized for accepting donations from companies such as Exxon Mobil Corp.
    Mr. O'Keefe said his organization doesn't deny the existence of global warming but questions the methods used by individuals and groups advocating for new government restrictions to combat the phenomenon.
    "We have never said that global warming isn't real," Mr. O'Keefe said. "No self-respecting think tank would accept money to support preconceived notions. We make sure what we are saying is both scientifically and analytically defensible."
    In an interview with local NBC affiliate KGW-TV, Mr. Kulongoski, a Democrat, said he hopes to take away Mr. Taylor's job title because his views do not mesh with the political opinions of most lawmakers in Oregon, including the governor.
    "He is Oregon State University's climatologist. He is not the state of Oregon's climatologist," Mr. Kulongoski said. "I just think there has to be somebody that says, 'This is the state position on this.' "
    Mr. Taylor was appointed to the position in 1991, when Oregon's legislature created a state climate office at the college. Mr. Kulongoski wants to change the position to a governor-appointed one. State Sen. Brad Avakian, a Democrat, is sponsoring a bill supporting such a move.

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2007, 05:02:13 AM »

I do believe in GW, but mainly because there are palpable changes in my country during the last decades. When my parents were kids, there would be snow every year. Now we have snow every five years. Temperatures during winter are noticeable warmer, summers are hotter and rain has become far more scarce. I believe it is our third draught year now. Even birds, which used to migrate to Africa every winter now stay for all year. So yes, there's something going on with the weather.

Is it the GW? Well, the media tend to make you an esceoptic, because they blame everything unusual on GW, just to sell more newspapers, often not even citing scientific evidence nor authorities, but I found Al Gore's documentary far more plausible than the latest Michael Crichton yarn on how we got infiltrated by tree huggers that want to destroy or society. 

Well, now that apparently George W. Bush has decided Global Warming DOES exist, I can mention it around here without being labelled as a commie.

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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2007, 04:05:07 AM »

pffft, global warming, big deal! When will the people realise, that when the icecaps melt we will be all dead and our children have to worry about it ? I say we do as Scott Adams recommended and live large, use up all natural resources and leave behind a fat, rich and swollen body.
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2007, 09:04:38 AM »

Ive done a lot of research on global warming, even going as far as to look at data from ice core samples. In my opinion man made global warming is bunk. It is true that are earth is going through a warming cycle and that it started in the early 1900's around the time of the industrial revolution, but that still does not support that we are causing the planet to warm up. Are planet has been warming up and cooling down for millions of years, many changes far more extreme and dramatic than what we are seeing today. Scientists like to point to the data in ice core samples as proof that global warming is being caused by man, but when I started looking around the internet researching the ice core samples I found many articles explaining how inacurate ice core samples are, and that they do not give a complete picture of the earths atmosphere at the time.
Its also constantly pointed out that the ice caps and glaciers are melting. So what? Just because the ice has been there the past 100,000 years doesn't mean that its going to be there another 100,000 years. Also the average temerature at the poles is below freazing, and in many places far , far below around -30 to -80.So in order for all of the ice caps to melt and drown us all the temperature at the poles would have to rise 70 to 120 degrees, and with the average temperature around earth 70 to 80 you can just imagine how hot it would get. So Water World is looking far less plausible now.
The earth changes and we can't do anything about it. Humanity likes to think that because we are capable of so many technological advancements we can control the planet. Sorry but we can't. Nature is the dominating force on this planet and it will prevail over and reclaim any technology or land we try to take. A good example is the weather. We have tried to predict it and control it, but we fail constantly at it.  Remeber how every one living along the gulf coast was supposed to be killed off by hundreds of class 5 hurricanes last year. Guess what NO hurricanes. So just because we had a unusualy harsh hurricane season one year, doesn't mean that is the only time there has ever been a harsh huricane season. The reason why there is more destruction now days from weather is not because the weather has goten worse it because humans are dumb and build there citys along a coast below sea level. What do you think is going to happen.
Humans have tendancy to only look back at there own experinces in life and view them as the law of the world. Humans have trouble grasping that other simular events might have acurred hundreds or thousands of years ago, and will happen again anouther hundred or thousand years from now.We have after all only been seriously studying and recording weather for a little over a hundred years and have been studying the global climate for the past 50. You can't base all your knowledge on a system older than mankind on a 100 years of research,  500 to a 1000 years from now maybe you can but lets not jump the gun here.
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2007, 10:54:55 PM »

I have to take some issues with your first post cheeze.

I for one think it's BS ... here's why (in short).

Hollyweird believes it, so it can't be true.

Erm..  Alright!

There is as much info to debunk Global warming as there is to support it, but the support gets more air play because it's more fun the scare people and other lemmings.

Not really.  Almost no one denies global warming is taking place, just the cause of it.

Al Gore invented it along with the internet. Lookingup

Al Gore never claimed he invented the internet.

When Krakatoa erupted in 1883 it released more green house gases in one day than man has since he first walked upright.

I've heard this before.  Can you give a source?  I don't really deny the veracity, I'm merely curious.  I did find a link somewhere which suggested Krakatoa singlehandedly cooled the earth by an average of 1 degree up til the present day.  It was an incredibly powerful blast, after all.

Climate experts are never in "consensus" and facts and figures are all over the board with their so call hard cold facts.

Yeah, there's a reason weather is so over the place.  Specifics are incredibly hard to predict.

Man just doesn't have that much power over the planet.

Possibly not.  I will say humanity will be rotting in its collective grave while life goes on.

[QUOTENot enough data ... experts are going on about 100 years of data out of 5,000,000,000 years of history. That would be like going to the river getting a glass of water and saying "Well this is what the water is like all over the globe." yeah right.

They only have precise readings for 100 years.  They can estimate fairly accurately on overall trends for hundreds of thousands of years.

The 1930's are the warmest decade in record. Remember the dust bowl?

True.  Global warming is about overall trends, nothing else.

China builds 3 coal fired power stations a year and 1, only 1 of them releases more green house gases than 1.3 billion SUV's ... here that Hollyweird. Quit griping at me and gripe at China.


They got a foot of snow in Texas this year.
It was 7 degrees last night at my home in the SOUTH ... that's not warming no matter how you slice it.

Again, it's overall trends, not a single year or even a fews temperatures.  As it happens, warming can also cause periods of cooling.  Interesting, isn't it?  The overall year was still incredibly warm, in any case.

Nearly every METEOROLOGIST think it's garbage. What would they know, thay only make a living predicting the weather.


History is riddled with doomdayers, and so far they ALL have been wrong.
The world would end in the year 1000 ... it didn't
Again in 2000 ... it didn't
Y2K? remember that scare and nothing happened!

Well, in Y2K's case, nothing happened because tens of thousands of people spent billions of dollars and countless hours fixing it.

Remember the Bird Flu where it was going to cross over and kill half of mankind last year ... did that happen or am I in a tiny little bubble too.

I don't recall any specific dates about bird flu, probably because none were ever given by anyone credible.  The fear is that it could mutate into a new strain and wreak havoc, which has in fact happened a number of times with similar diseases in history.  Like the flu from 1918-1919, which killed between 50 and 100 million people.  It's not really a doomsday prediction, it would just really suck.  Human civilization would go on as long as no countries did anything overly stupid in response to it.
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