Firstly, I have a life away from this board. You may have time to come on here daily to to engage in pointless debate with strangers, I have other things that take precedence. My reply was about as much as your one line comment warranted.
I am so happy to be a lifeless loser, at your service, who has no other purpose than to be on this forum. Was your comment directed specifically at me, or did you include every member of this forum who comes on here daily?
Secondly. I have said REPEATEDLY that I have no problem with the reviewer liking or disliking the movie. My original comment was that the review was dull. I stand by that and you have at no point made any argument against that statement, deciding instead to continually state that I don't like it because it disagrees with my opinion of the movie (which I haven't given).
Specifically, as you suggest that you are quoting yourself, you said the review was humorless.
Being that you like to quote people exactly, I'll include parts of the review here:
Before I saw this movie, I had heard nothing but good things about it. Everyone that I asked about it said it was great. Everyone was wrong. Near the beginning of the movie, a kid is spying on a funeral and sees some weird things and mouths quietly, "What the f**k?" That boy's words can pretty much sum up this movie. In fact, I'd be the one saying those words had I not fallen asleep while I was watching it. I've seen this movie twice now, and that's 4 times more than I should have seen it. This movie made about as much sense as that last sentence....
Now I'm thinking, "Hooray. Movie over." But as it turns out, that's not the case. The boy wakes up and goes downstairs to tell Reggie all about it. It was all a stupid dream. In reality, the boy's brother has been dead for a while because of a car crash and Reggie looks after the boy now. There was never any Tall Man, silver orbs of doom, or blatant Star Wars rip-offs. It was all a dream. Ok, that's simple enough. It's stupid and predictable, but simple. So the boy goes back up to his room and gets attacked by the Tall Man. The end.
I don't even want to make any sense out of this crappy movie. Plot holes, bad writing, and bad acting is all this movie provided. All that and a headache. So don't be fooled by its' trailer that makes it look awesome like I did. Just pretend it doesn't exist, and maybe it will go away.And your first reply:
Some sympathy to the reviewer, he obviously enjoyed the movie as little as anybody will enjoy reading his review. It really stands out on a website full of largely humourous reviews of bad movies as being completely humourless.
The big question is why you would write a lengthy whine about being unable to understand what was going on while admitting that you fell asleep repeatedly (and also indeirectly that you can't spot a dream sequence in a movie (maybe you're just to used to inserting your own dream sequences)) is beyond me. Regardless of anyone's opinion of the movie, if you're not bright enough to even follow what's going on, probably best not to do a review.
(the considerate break between paragraphs was my addition)
Can you kindly point out where is his review he said:
1) He fell asleep repeatedly
2) Anything about not being able to spot a dream sequence
Your first reply was to not only insinuate things that the reviewer never said (by his own words, he fell asleep once and watched the movie twice), but to hurl insults at him as well.
Regardless of anyone's opinion of the movie, if you're not bright enough to even follow what's going on, probably best not to do a review.
You basically called him stupid because you claimed he could not follow a movie which you claim you have no problem following; although he did a good job of following it in his review, he just said it did not make sense to him.
To me, the first "Phantasm" is a good attempt to film a nightmare. Parts of it make sense, parts of it do not, there are weird occurrences and changing facts. One minute, the young protagonist's brother is one character, then suddenly it changes to another. It all reminds me of those nightmares that wake you. Sometimes you even get some rational ability while having them and recognize that reality is changing under your mental feet as you experience the late night terrors. And, like the killer jaw as, things you have seen in films or read in books intrude into the nightmare.
Andrew said that parts of the movie did not make sense.
Would you like to take a moment and call him stupid as well?
As for not lowering yourself, tell me again who it was stamping his foot and shouting bulls**t in response to perfectly reasonable questions. If you'd care to read back, you'll find it wasn't me. No doubt you'll also find that that I was perfectly civil towards you up till then.
Not only did you frankly bore me with your incessant rambling, but I did not see any need to break down your post into multiple bulls**ts.
If you insist, though:
I'm not pushing my viewpoint onto anybody else. The outline of the plot that I gave is in fact the plot outline.
Bulls**t!
What plot outline? The only one who gave a plot outline was the reviewer. Your viewpoint is that the review is either without humor or dull, and you continue to harp on your assumption that the review fell asleep several times and could not follow the movie; neither of which the reviewer ever said.
Not only that, but you also claim that the movie makes perfect sense and that apparently anybody who does not see it your way is not too bright and does not need to be reviewing the movie.
That is your viewpoint and you are pushy about it.
My post is neither dramatic or obtuse (I would suggest you actually look those words up).
My original post was mostly making the (correct) points that
a) the review was poor - it was unfunny and dull to read and basically belongs with all the other 'worst movie ever' rants on IMDB rather than on a site of humourous reviews of bad movies.
b) that if you admit that you have fallen asleep during a movie, you have lost all credibility in claiming that there was something wrong with the movie because you couldn't follow it.
Bulls**t!
First, your post was dull.
Correct points? What correct points? Are you the only one who sees everything so correctly that you know better than Andrew if a review belongs on his site?
Once again, you are pushing your viewpoint; which you claim to have not done.
If someone falls asleep during a movie because they found it to be boring, that is the fault of the movie and not because they were not bright enough to get it.
However, since we seem to have wandered off that point, in light of you last comment, perhaps you'd like to explain to me how the outline of the plot that I gave is incorrect. At the very least enlighten me with the parts of the movie that you had trouble following.
Bulls**t!
Once again, what outline? The only outline given was by the reviewer.
Andrew, just out of curiousity, would you really consider the post by Menard to which I was responding, namely:
"As usual, you are right about everything (yawn)."
to be discussion or debate??
For that matter, would you consider replying to perfectly resaonable questions with 'Bulls**t!' to be discussion or debate???
Just a statement of fact.
Your incessant harping on points in the review which you have fabricated is just really dull in its repetition.
As for your opinion on this movie, you don't need to state it.
You have come on here and insulted the reviewer, fabricated parts of the review to make your own over-laden viewpoint, claimed to have the 'correct points' that aren't even in the review in question, then proceeded to shove it down our throats if it is not accepted blindly.
Insulting and name calling and acts of emotion. You have been quite passionate in your effort to insult two members of this board and push your points which have no merit in the review in question. These are not the acts of someone who is neutral on the film in question; a 3 year old could read between the lines here.
If you want to be right about everything...
...well, fine, be right about everything; but your constant fabrications contradict that. If you want to be right about everything, try a little honesty first.
Now kindly stop boring me and wasting my time.
Hey dude, it's just a movie.