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« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2015, 06:32:44 PM »

Bill Cosby Accused of Drugging, Raping Former Hollywood Executive Cindra Ladd

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/bill-cosby-accused-drugging-raping-former-hollywood-executive-191216044.html
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2015, 10:50:18 PM »

It just keeps getting worse . . .  Bluesad
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« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2015, 08:31:19 AM »

The real problem is that 'old' allegations are pretty much impossible to prove with physical evidence.

I am not saying any of these ladies are lying and I am not propping up BC.  But, I will say it does not matter to me much how many "pile on," as that in and of itself does not mean a single one of them (or the group collectively) are telling the truth.

I've spent a good of time in court on rape cases.  They are hard enough to prove in the best of circumstances with solid physical evidence.  A case like this will never see a conviction, or at least that's my read.

But, I do renew my caution of the "court of public opinion."  The fact remains that Cosby has now been convicted in the cultural court, and regardless of his guilt or innocence, his life is forever altered in a negative way.

This p**ses me right off because we have codified protections in place to prevent this crap from happening, yet they are ignored. Due process is a very, very important thing, and I suggest you all be very careful how much of that you are willing to give away on the alter of "pop news."

I've looked rapists and murderers and armed robbers in the eye.  And, I've testified against them.  And, I believe they should be punished for their crimes and their crimes are no joking matter.  But, at the same time, I've also been vocally adamant that they deserve their day in court according to the freaking rules.  That is, rules of evidence and rules regarding Right to Cross Examination.

People's lives, including those accused of heinous, violent crimes, are not "entertainment."  This stuff is not a game.

Regarding that glee that is felt when a story like this breaks?  I suggest you guys check out the STARSUCKERS (2009) documentary.  It's available online:

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/starsuckers/

It is an interesting insight into how and why stories like this are manufactured and used to manipulate.  No vetting, no sourcing, nothing in many, many cases.

Short Version: Gossip is its own evil, no matter what the subject of the gossip did or did not do.
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« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2015, 01:50:42 PM »

I agree Ulthar, to the extent that we are all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.  I also agree that any conviction is unlikely.
It is well observed that there is no "entertainment" in these stories.  They are terribly disturbing and not "Pop news" to most of us who've commented here.  I think there are many reasons a woman would choose to not tell her story, but later decide with hindsight that she needed to.   I think at least a few of these women's stories are credible. 
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« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2015, 10:46:57 PM »

Bill Cosby says career is 'far from finished' 

http://news.yahoo.com/bill-cosby-says-career-far-finished-223257089.html

Los Angeles (AFP) - A defiant Bill Cosby hit back Wednesday at sex allegations swirling against him, declaring: "I'm far from finished."

The embattled 77-year-old actor-comedian, a household name in the United States and beyond, has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing in the face of accusations dating back decades by some 30 women.

He has not been charged with any offenses but his glittering career has taken a huge hit.

Cosby went on the front foot Wednesday, releasing a statement reading: "Dear Fans: For 53 years you have given me your love, support, respect and trust. Thank you! I can't wait to see your smiling faces and warm your hearts with a wonderful gift -- LAUGHTER. I'm ready!

"I thank you, the theatre staff (Heymann Performing Arts Center), the event organizers and the Lafayette Community for your continued support and coming to experience family, fun entertainment. Hey, Hey, Hey -- I'm far from finished. Sincerely, Bill Cosby." ...

http://news.yahoo.com/bill-cosby-says-career-far-finished-223257089.html

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« Reply #50 on: February 26, 2015, 12:08:50 AM »

The dude has chutzpah, I'll give him that.
But I find myself unable to believe a word he says anymore.
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« Reply #51 on: February 26, 2015, 02:44:30 AM »

The dude has chutzpah, I'll give him that.
But I find myself unable to believe a word he says anymore.

One of the really good films he was in - Robert Culp's Hickey and Boggs - was showing on AMC the other night and I couldn't bring myself to watch the thing.
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« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2015, 12:26:22 PM »

Everything That's Wrong With Bill Cosby's Video Message to Fans

http://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/everything-that-s-wrong-with-bill-cosby-s-message-to-fans-000652286.html
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« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2015, 04:01:28 PM »

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But, I do renew my caution of the "court of public opinion."  The fact remains that Cosby has now been convicted in the cultural court, and regardless of his guilt or innocence, his life is forever altered in a negative way.

It is worth noting here these allegations have been around for decades, it's not like much of this is really new.  Previously, it had virtually no effect on his career or lifestyle.  Several comedians say he's always been skeezy though, basically an open secret.  Big difference now is just the amount of attention.  Cultural circumstances, basically, are just different now. 

You certainly have a valid point about public opinion and where it comes from, but that's just how it is with celebs.  Perception is reality.  Think of Michael Jackson, which is a murky scenario to be sure.
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