Kill Bill

[joejoeherron]

to me, the Kill Bill series of movies were long, drawn out and filled with dialog that is in a world of it's self. Don't get me wrong, I own both and watch them from time to time. They are Taratino's movies and it takes a little bit of (patience?) to watch them. I would still rather watch "Jackie Brown" though.

[Flick James]

I certainly don't begrudge anyone their right to not like Kill Bill. I knew when I saw them both that there would not only be a division on which was the better installment, but on whether some liked the whole at all, some, or loved it. I enjoyed both films quite a bit, particularly part II. It is certainly derivative work (as is everything he does), nobody can deny that, but I think QT has a proper balance of tounge-in-cheek satire, and genuine respect for that from which he derives.

[the ghoul]

I loved both of the Kill Bill films.  They certainly aren't groundbreaking or original in the least bit, but I find them to be extremely entertaining and fun, which is what matters most when it comes right down to it.  I think they are easily better than 99.9% of the movies from the past 3 decades.

Regarding your question about whether or not they are B-movies, I think they can be called B-movies by today's popular definition, but if you want to get technical, I think the term B-movie was originally meant to describe the second (and usually more low-budget) movie shown at a drive-in or double feature.

[Flick James]

the ghoul -

You may be right. I've often wondered about that. I don't that there is a "definition" of what "b-movie" means. It's a bit gray. Another definition that I like is that it's like A-list actors and B-list actors. Robert DeNiro is an A-list actor, while Michale Madsen is B-list. The movies that either star in tend to suggest A-movie or B-movie, but certainly not always. Harvey Keitel has certainly done plenty of both.

[Skull]

I kinda like it and kinda hate it...

I like the idea of a 2 part (cliff hanger) movie and the 1970's martial arts theme.

I dont like the Quentin Tarantino dialogue... For some reason [Quentin] is given a pass with script writing and 'talking heads'. So the dialogue does get boring at times then suddenly it seems that somebody has called army to drop some F-bombs to livin it up. (Personally I think Quentin Tarantino is better then that but its seems that he has a lazy tendency when writing his scripts and using "talking heads." But what work for Reservoir Dogs (1992) should work in all his films?... Not true you need some really good character actors to pull this off... )