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« on: July 27, 2011, 01:54:06 PM »
i need to watch this, but I'm a few minutes in and already I feel bored. I need to watch this for AP European History, along with Luther, The Mission, Dangerous Liaisons, Marie Antoinette, Atonement, and Lives of Others. I already finished Dr. Zhivago (which is a well made movie Cheers) please, tell me!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2011, 02:09:09 PM »
Quote from: El Toro Loco on July 27, 2011, 01:54:06 PM
i need to watch this, but I'm a few minutes in and already I feel bored. I need to watch this for AP European History, along with Luther, The Mission, Dangerous Liaisons, Marie Antoinette, Atonement, and Lives of Others. I already finished Dr. Zhivago (which is a well made movie Cheers) please, tell me!!!!!

I've seen every movie listed except Name of the Rose. Sorry.

Interesting that you're watching so many movies, as opposed to actual documentaries. Historically based movies are almost always very biased.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2011, 02:15:02 PM »
It's okay, I guess.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2011, 03:29:46 PM »
The Movie isn't bad, nor is the book (the book is a bit slow, but thats that author).  The auther was my Italian Buddy's literature teacher in Bologne.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2011, 03:33:11 PM »
Quote from: Ed on July 27, 2011, 03:29:46 PM
The Movie isn't bad, nor is the book (the book is a bit slow, but thats that author).  The auther was my Italian Buddy's literature teacher in Bologne.
-Ed

Yeah, well, my literature teacher was from Salami.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2011, 03:34:56 PM »
Sorry, BOLOGNA!  The place in Italy
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2011, 03:41:16 PM »
Quote from: Ed on July 27, 2011, 03:34:56 PM
Sorry, BOLOGNA!  The place in Italy

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Oh, dude. I was just messin' with ya. I've been to Northern Italy twice. I know Bologna.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2011, 03:58:50 PM »
If my buddy heard I calle dhis home lunchmeat, I'd be dead. 
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 09:34:15 PM »
NAME OF THE ROSE is very good.  Give it a chance. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 09:53:31 PM »
did and boy was it fun! Thumbup
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2011, 11:55:17 PM »
I really enjoyed the book. A medieval mystery that attempts to get into the mindset of the monks of a monastery of that time period. Grafted onto that is a mystery that touches upon many aspects of philosophy, which of course can only be solved by the avatar of the modern mind, William of Baskerville.

Great stuff.

The movie I also enjoyed, but to a lesser extent, as it lost most of the philosophical ponderings and theological crises to focus on the mystery. Still a good story well put together.

Fun fact: "The Girl" went on to play a cenobite in Hellraiser IV.

Anyway, if you liked the movie, you might check out the book. Forewarning, the book is not the easiest of reading. In fact, Eco wrote the first hundred pages of the book as something of a test to weed out less dedicated readers (kind of a jerk move). Great book, though.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2011, 01:17:59 AM »
If you are selective and aware of bias, a good historical film or novel can do more than any documentary or history book to put you into another time period.  I am actually re-reading FIRST MAN IN ROME right now; I'm not sure if I am up to re-reading all six books in the series, but I might.  Colleen McCullough is a brilliant novelist and a pretty thorough scholar.  Her Romans actually think and act like Romans in the First Century BC, not like Americans transplanted to a historic setting.
  Bias can be very hamfisted, though.  KINGDOM OF HEAVEN is so pro-Islamic you wonder if the screenwriter was Muslim - not a single Christian character in the movie is admirable, and none of the Muslims are particularly villainous.  The hero is, of course, a 20th century agnostic mind in the body of a 12th century knight.
  NAME OF THE ROSE is a pretty entertaining movie, if you can get past the slow opening.  I'll admit the explicit and prolonged sex scene did catch me a bit offguard the first time I saw it - not what you'd expect in a film about a bunch of monks!
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 01:24:00 AM »
That film proves without doubt that you should never lick your fingers when turning book pages.  Buggedout Buggedout
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2011, 04:00:51 PM »
Quote from: Trevor on July 28, 2011, 01:24:00 AM
That film proves without doubt that you should never lick your fingers when turning book pages.  Buggedout Buggedout

That was taken from the book.

While I did enjoy the film, I don't think it was as good as the book, which told a more complex story than the film.

Actually, because of the complexity of the book, I think it would have worked better as a TV miniseries. Even at 130 minutes, which is long for a film, the film had to reduce so much of the book's complexity to get it into that time span.


And having read other of Umberto Eco's novels, I have found this is  probably his most accessible for most modern readers.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 04:39:54 PM »
Fouicault's Pendulum is good, but much less straightforward.
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