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Question: If the Election were held today, which of the candidates would you support?  (Voting closed: November 09, 2011, 11:40:18 PM)
NONE OF THEM! They're all stooges! - 7 (30.4%)
Obama!  He's earned 4 more years! - 4 (17.4%)
Romney.  He looks Presidential. - 1 (4.3%)
Rick Perry is the man! - 0 (0%)
Ron Paul - the only choice! - 4 (17.4%)
Herman Cain - he can do it! - 2 (8.7%)
Michelle Bachmann - 0 (0%)
Newt Gingrich - 0 (0%)
John Huntsman - 2 (8.7%)
Gary Johnson (the "shovel ready" guy - 0 (0%)
Bill and Opus in 2012! - 3 (13%)
Total Voters: 22

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« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2011, 11:27:16 AM »

I think Cain is able.

The jokes are very high-brow lately. Cain is "Abel?" Very good, sir. Very good.
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« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2011, 12:42:08 PM »

Hmm, President Newt Gingrich. That has a good ring to it...  Lookingup
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« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2011, 02:06:32 PM »

That would mean that New York, Texas, and California would pretty much choose every President.  I'm a Texan, but I still don't like that idea.  I'm a big believer in Federalism, and the Electoral College was made to reflect that - to give smaller states at least something of a voice beyond their population.  

That being said, if we did not change the electoral system after the boondoggle in 2000, I don't think we ever will.

Also, to be perfectly honest, I do believe there is such a thing as too much democracy. We are, after all, a Republic.  If it were not prone to such vile manipulation by both sides, I would still favor a literacy test for voters.  I mean, do we really want someone who CAN'T EVEN READ to have a voice in choosing the leader of the free world?  The less stupid people go to the polls, the more intelligent the eventual choice becomes.
Well,then....maybe they could give each state the exact same  number of electorial votes to prevent such a problem. Although I think there would be enough states to counter this. The state where my husband is from,Ohio,is actually the 4th most populace state. I'm pretty sure.
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« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2011, 06:52:01 PM »

The debate between large and small states over political power was at the heart of our Constitutional convention.  The smaller populated states did not want a legislators apportioned by population, but wanted an equal voice.  The large states said it was ridiculous for a state with 50k people to  have the same voice as a state with 500k people.  So they split the difference and created a proportional House of Representatives, and a Senate where every state has two votes regardless of size.  And the electoral college is based on that same formula.  It's worked pretty well for 220 years, so I'm not ready to discard it yet.
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« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2011, 06:56:07 PM »

The debate between large and small states over political power was at the heart of our Constitutional convention.  The smaller populated states did not want a legislators apportioned by population, but wanted an equal voice.  The large states said it was ridiculous for a state with 50k people to  have the same voice as a state with 500k people.  So they split the difference and created a proportional House of Representatives, and a Senate where every state has two votes regardless of size.  And the electoral college is based on that same formula.  It's worked pretty well for 220 years, so I'm not ready to discard it yet.

Oh please. I know that the real reason you don't want to get rid of it is because the popular vote would have made Al Gore president 11 years ago. You can't fool me.

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« Reply #50 on: October 14, 2011, 08:57:44 PM »

The debate between large and small states over political power was at the heart of our Constitutional convention.  The smaller populated states did not want a legislators apportioned by population, but wanted an equal voice.  The large states said it was ridiculous for a state with 50k people to  have the same voice as a state with 500k people.  So they split the difference and created a proportional House of Representatives, and a Senate where every state has two votes regardless of size.  And the electoral college is based on that same formula.  It's worked pretty well for 220 years, so I'm not ready to discard it yet.

Oh please. I know that the real reason you don't want to get rid of it is because the popular vote would have made Al Gore president 11 years ago. You can't fool me.

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Not for nothing, but damn it, he should've had that. Cheers
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« Reply #51 on: October 14, 2011, 09:02:57 PM »

Everytime someone brings up voting, it reminds me of this:
Homer Simpson 'votes' for Obama.
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On a side note, I have registered Libertarian.  I'll never see a full on president from my party.  Likely the closest we'll get, in most people's eyes, is however far Ron Paul gets with his Republican Party thing.  He could still run as an Independant.  Eh.  I like a lot of his policies and those of the LP.
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« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2011, 12:15:22 AM »

The debate between large and small states over political power was at the heart of our Constitutional convention.  The smaller populated states did not want a legislators apportioned by population, but wanted an equal voice.  The large states said it was ridiculous for a state with 50k people to  have the same voice as a state with 500k people.  So they split the difference and created a proportional House of Representatives, and a Senate where every state has two votes regardless of size.  And the electoral college is based on that same formula.  It's worked pretty well for 220 years, so I'm not ready to discard it yet.

Oh please. I know that the real reason you don't want to get rid of it is because the popular vote would have made Al Gore president 11 years ago. You can't fool me.

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« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2011, 04:06:46 AM »

 I think there all salesmen who will lie to get into office to promote their own agenda. Which is usually based on MONEY.
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« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2011, 10:00:23 AM »

We all love destruction when it is visited on people we don't like.
When it hits close to home, though - that's another matter. Buggedout
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« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2011, 03:57:03 AM »

On a side note, I have registered Libertarian.  I'll never see a full on president from my party.  Likely the closest we'll get, in most people's eyes, is however far Ron Paul gets with his Republican Party thing.  He could still run as an Independant.  Eh.  I like a lot of his policies and those of the LP.

I'm registered as independent, mostly because there is no party-line I can toe. There's stuff I agree with and stuff I don't, and I reserve the right to make up my own mind.

But the only "benefit" I've seen from being an independent is a self-disenfranchisement from being able to vote in either the Republican or Democratic primaries. Hey, I've got candidates in both parties I'd like to see be the forerunners in every election. Can I vote for them? Nope, I'm "independent."

Hooray.
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« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2011, 10:07:59 AM »

We all love destruction when it is visited on people we don't like.
When it hits close to home, though - that's another matter. Buggedout

That's where you and I differ. I find destruction repellant no matter the motivation. I simply accept motivation when it is justified, but I never love it.
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« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2011, 10:17:49 AM »

I've been looking into Ron Paul more, because he has so many supporters. Excluding his stance on war and drugs I don't find anything I like, at all, to be honest.
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« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2011, 12:42:30 PM »

On a side note, I have registered Libertarian.  I'll never see a full on president from my party.  Likely the closest we'll get, in most people's eyes, is however far Ron Paul gets with his Republican Party thing.  He could still run as an Independant.  Eh.  I like a lot of his policies and those of the LP.

I'm registered as independent, mostly because there is no party-line I can toe. There's stuff I agree with and stuff I don't, and I reserve the right to make up my own mind.

But the only "benefit" I've seen from being an independent is a self-disenfranchisement from being able to vote in either the Republican or Democratic primaries. Hey, I've got candidates in both parties I'd like to see be the forerunners in every election. Can I vote for them? Nope, I'm "independent."

Hooray.
I've run into that for years....I consider myself an Independent as well. And a Moderate which has gotten me called "indecisive" or "fence-sitter" or "waffler"....but that's just not the case. Sometimes it's a tough haul to be one who has many facets to their political beliefs. I just can't be forced into a specific pigeon hole.
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« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2011, 09:12:50 AM »

On a side note, I have registered Libertarian.  I'll never see a full on president from my party.  Likely the closest we'll get, in most people's eyes, is however far Ron Paul gets with his Republican Party thing.  He could still run as an Independant.  Eh.  I like a lot of his policies and those of the LP.

I'm registered as independent, mostly because there is no party-line I can toe. There's stuff I agree with and stuff I don't, and I reserve the right to make up my own mind.

But the only "benefit" I've seen from being an independent is a self-disenfranchisement from being able to vote in either the Republican or Democratic primaries. Hey, I've got candidates in both parties I'd like to see be the forerunners in every election. Can I vote for them? Nope, I'm "independent."

Hooray.
I've run into that for years....I consider myself an Independent as well. And a Moderate which has gotten me called "indecisive" or "fence-sitter" or "waffler"....but that's just not the case. Sometimes it's a tough haul to be one who has many facets to their political beliefs. I just can't be forced into a specific pigeon hole.
Consider me as well. Always split the deal down the middle is my way I view stuff. Don't have the Republicans in office, they f'ed  up the economy which caused people to be out of jobs which is killing the US. Also, the reason (as I see it) that the Republicans wants to keep the electoral colleges is that their state with the most Republicans is Texas, where as California is Democratic, so the majority of the votes (to them) is that California will always triumph Texas. I don't care if Indy or any other Republicans on the board wants to hang me (or give me negative karma) but I'm sticking by it and even if Andrew has to delete this post, I'm still sticking by my motivations, I may be blinded by hatred but I had to suffer the last Republican in office who f**ked up so many times that it painted the way I see things. True that there are chilled Republicans that speaks out their minds and I'm for them, the problem is that the ones controlling the US doesn't tell the truth and lies to get more money and goes to their mistresses/ wives to make their lives better at our suffering. thank you.

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