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« on: January 09, 2012, 01:07:58 AM »

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/247339/lawmakers_seem_intent_on_approving_sopa_pipa.html

This could very well mean the end of this forum as well. Damn this thing is scary.

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 10:02:12 AM »

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/247339/lawmakers_seem_intent_on_approving_sopa_pipa.html

This could very well mean the end of this forum as well. Damn this thing is scary.



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"Ferguson and other Web security experts have questioned provisions in both bills that would allow court orders forcing Internet service providers to block subscriber access to foreign websites accused of copyright infringement and domain name registrars to stop resolving queries that direct traffic to those sites...  The bills would also allow the U.S. Department of Justice and copyright holders to seek court orders blocking payment processors and online advertising networks from doing business with foreign sites accused of infringing copyright."

How would this end this forum?  This forum isn't dedicated to copyright infringement.  People panic at absolutely anything.  I run a website and I'm not scared in the slightest. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2012, 10:28:50 AM »

Sorry if it sounds like I was mad at you personally, Bob, that wasn't my intent.  This is just a pet peeve of mine: people panicking every time Congress contemplates some piece of legislation, predicting that it will cause the end of society/civil liberties/chicken dinners on Sunday. 

The bill may not be perfect, but the fact is all the provisions are very clearly aimed at blocking/limiting access to sites operating outside the US which are dedicated to providing pirated software/music/movies.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 12:36:22 PM »

Sorry if it sounds like I was mad at you personally, Bob, that wasn't my intent.  This is just a pet peeve of mine: people panicking every time Congress contemplates some piece of legislation, predicting that it will cause the end of society/civil liberties/chicken dinners on Sunday. 

The bill may not be perfect, but the fact is all the provisions are very clearly aimed at blocking/limiting access to sites operating outside the US which are dedicated to providing pirated software/music/movies.

Given that my chicken dinners are always on Saturday, I too am not concerned.

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 05:30:01 AM »

It won't stop us posting here, because who cares what we talk about?

Question is, why is the entire issue of internet access dedicated to movie studios who are afraid people might be watching their product for free? Who are they and why should we care? The broad expanse of communication that the internet is is more than some goober watching "She's All That."

The proponents of SOPA are arguing, whether they know it or not, that the possibility of a pimply-faced teenager watching the latest movie for free is more important than every single thing the internet is capable of.

That's stupid, and the legal precedents they are willing to enforce to make sure that doesn't happen boggle the mind.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2012, 10:49:17 AM »


Question is, why is the entire issue of internet access dedicated to movie studios who are afraid people might be watching their product for free? Who are they and why should we care? The broad expanse of communication that the internet is is more than some goober watching "She's All That."

The proponents of SOPA are arguing, whether they know it or not, that the possibility of a pimply-faced teenager watching the latest movie for free is more important than every single thing the internet is capable of.

That's stupid, and the legal precedents they are willing to enforce to make sure that doesn't happen boggle the mind.

You should care simply because the people who are pirating movies are doing an injustice to the people who work hard to make them, hurting the economy, and (until I'm convinced otherwise) efforts to stop them have no effect on your legitimate rights.  I defend copyright and intellectual property because it is the cornerstone for creative people to be able to make a living in the free market doing what they love.   

I presume you're not at all concerned when access is blocked to a child pornography site.  Efforts to stop child pornography haven't brought the Internet to its knees.  Several EU countries already block sites dedicated to copyright infringement (i.e., Pirate Bay).

What specific proposal boggles your mind? I see a few minor problems with the bill but nothing that couldn't be fixed.  The majority of arguments I've seen against it are slippery-slope arguments, and I never take those very seriously.

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 10:50:38 PM »

So the guy Who Authored SOPA Was A Copyright Violator

http://www.businessinsider.com/lamar-smith-copyright-violator-2012-1
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 01:53:44 PM »

So the guy Who Authored SOPA Was A Copyright Violator

http://www.businessinsider.com/lamar-smith-copyright-violator-2012-1


So, what you're saying is that the author of the anti-piracy legislation knows what he's talking about?
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 03:33:02 PM »

This is ridiculous.  Thumbdown
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 07:27:06 PM »

So the guy Who Authored SOPA Was A Copyright Violator

http://www.businessinsider.com/lamar-smith-copyright-violator-2012-1


So, what you're saying is that the author of the anti-piracy legislation knows what he's talking about?


I just thought it was extremely ironic and would contribute to this discussion
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 07:27:59 PM »

So the guy Who Authored SOPA Was A Copyright Violator

http://www.businessinsider.com/lamar-smith-copyright-violator-2012-1


So, what you're saying is that the author of the anti-piracy legislation knows what he's talking about?


I just thought it was extremely ironic and would contribute to this discussion


I was just clowning around.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2012, 12:58:12 AM »

Does the bill include any provisions for sopapillas, though?
That's what I really need to know.
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2012, 08:13:05 AM »

Does the bill include any provisions for sopapillas, though?
That's what I really need to know.

I was considering a joke along those lines. I thought the audience would be too small.

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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2012, 09:53:36 AM »

Does the bill include any provisions for sopapillas, though?
That's what I really need to know.

I was considering a joke along those lines. I thought the audience would be too small.



I ate a sopapilla last night and it's likely to pass soon.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 10:32:55 AM »

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