So what do you think? Double Standard or just more conservative whining? (PT)

[Frank81]

This site leans decidedly to the right.

If Rush lost a bunch of sponsors that's too bad for him. He can't complain about that. My main problem those of his ilk is that he will tell an outright lie, and if anybody calls him on it he will say that it was parody. But at the time he says it, he seems like he's presenting the truth, and of course his cultists accept it as truth. He's not the only one to do this. There are lobs who do it too, but line are more likely to actually present it as parody in the first place. That's my perception of course, but back when I used to listen to him I would hear him do it. As soon as somebody exposed something he said the day before as inaccurate, he would hide behind parody.

It all depends on one's perspective, I read someone else on this site who said the site leans to the Left. It does remind me of the old joke, picked up by Limbaugh and others  I've  heard, about SUV's being out of control, rather than the driver inside the SUV?

I 've on  this site, the last few days, I think it's pretty  mixed and pretty laid back, not left or right. The  cottage industry that monitors FOX News and the five guys on radio that don't follow the majority media, says more about the monitors than any innacurate  statements made by Limbaugh. I have  read comments made by Limbaugh, when I heard them later, found that many were a parody and were purposely taken out of context to make anything else said as innaccurate. Yup, Limbaugh does  parody and does some serious talk, it's a radio show, not a news show. I rarely listen, work most of the time, but, what i find more disturbing than Limbaughs occasional  errors and over statements is the industry trying to stop him, what are they really afraid of being exposed for the intolerant ones, they claim Limbaugh and others like him are being in the media? This thread started out as a comments thread on a double standard and I repeat, there is one standard, the majority Left and further Left media and a half dozen guys on radio and one TV station they don't control. Yeah, I know who is the intolerant and the 'establishment', and it's  not Limbaugh.

[lester1/2jr]

I'm surprised these companies give in so easily.

[indianasmith]

Bill O'Reilly dedicated his opening monologue to this ongoing situation last night, and he was clear, reasonable, and eloquent.  He came down foursquare AGAINST forced boycotts and said that those who abuse freedom of speech in the public square will usually see the marketplace punish their actions.  I know that a lot of folks don't like O'Reilly, but his clarity of expression and vision on this particular issue deeply impressed me.

[Allhallowsday]

This site leans decidedly to the right.
If Rush lost a bunch of sponsors that's too bad for him. He can't complain about that. My main problem those of his ilk is that he will tell an outright lie, and if anybody calls him on it he will say that it was parody. But at the time he says it, he seems like he's presenting the truth, and of course his cultists accept it as truth. He's not the only one to do this. There are lobs who do it too, but line are more likely to actually present it as parody in the first place. That's my perception of course, but back when I used to listen to him I would hear him do it. As soon as somebody exposed something he said the day before as inaccurate, he would hide behind parody.

It all depends on one's perspective, I read someone else on this site who said the site leans to the Left.

This story has been all over the news, and since I know this site, overall, tends to run a good bit left of me and a bit left of center, I thought I would ask your opinions...

It was Indy who said it. At the beginning of this thread.

[ulthar]

This site leans decidedly to the right.

This is a joke, right?

Maybe right now it seems that way because a few of us are speaking up in a few concentrated threads.

Look back over the years, especially during the Bush administration, and have a gander at some of the stuff that was posted. Look at HOW it was posted..the words and phrases used.

For a very long time, Indy and I were the only TWO in a sea of opposing viewpoints that posted conservative ideology with any regularity - and him more than me.  Oh, and there was Cheez, but he's not around anymore.  Yep...I remember threads with Cheez, Indy and I being pretty much it....

There has always been conservatives - don't get me wrong - but they mostly kept views to themselves unless/until really kinda pushed.

There are STILL plenty of leftists, and indeed outright socialists, on this forum. 

[tracy]

I myself am a Moderate and can see good points from both sides. Yes,I have been called "fence-sitter" or "waffler" or "indecisive" but I personally know a lot of folks with view points similar to mine. I'm as likely to vote Democratic as Republican. However,my views on abortion are rock solid conservative....it's murder and government paid abortions would be an insult. As for birth control,it isn't a "right" and should not be forced upon a Christian based business or church. Now,I'm no saint by any stretch of the imagination and I wasn't a virgin when Alan and I married....in fact I was never married to my daughter's father. But I'm so very grateful for my beloved Sarah and would do it again in a heart beat. Does that make me a hypocrit? Perhaps but I was deeply in love with her father back then and responsible for my own lack of birth control.....plus we were engaged. That just didn't work out and now I have a great husband who loves my daughter as his own.

[Allhallowsday]

This site leans decidedly to the right.

This is a joke, right?
Maybe right now it seems that way because a few of us are speaking up in a few concentrated threads.
Look back over the years, especially during the Bush administration, and have a gander at some of the stuff that was posted. Look at HOW it was posted..the words and phrases used.
For a very long time, Indy and I were the only TWO in a sea of opposing viewpoints that posted conservative ideology with any regularity - and him more than me.  Oh, and there was Cheez, but he's not around anymore.  Yep...I remember threads with Cheez, Indy and I being pretty much it....
There has always been conservatives - don't get me wrong - but they mostly kept views to themselves unless/until really kinda pushed.
There are STILL plenty of leftists, and indeed outright socialists, on this forum. 

I don't think Flick is joking.  Inspect the feedback trail.  Much of my own leads to political threads.  You have to go back a few years, though. 

[Allhallowsday]

I myself am a Moderate and can see good points from both sides. Yes,I have been called "fence-sitter" or "waffler" or "indecisive" but I personally know a lot of folks with view points similar to mine. I'm as likely to vote Democratic as Republican. However,my views on abortion are rock solid conservative....it's murder and government paid abortions would be an insult. As for birth control,it isn't a "right" and should not be forced upon a Christian based business or church. Now,I'm no saint by any stretch of the imagination and I wasn't a virgin when Alan and I married....in fact I was never married to my daughter's father. But I'm so very grateful for my beloved Sarah and would do it again in a heart beat. Does that make me a hypocrit? Perhaps but I was deeply in love with her father back then and responsible for my own lack of birth control.....plus we were engaged. That just didn't work out and now I have a great husband who loves my daughter as his own.

I can't disagree with just about anything you say.  I will say you describe my own feelings on a lot of hot topics, and I lean right on a few that might surprise.  I despise guns.  I don't want people to have people-killers, but I've espoused my opinions over the years on this forum and I'll just say, I appreciate the humanity and sense of your response. 

[JaseSF]

I consider Corporatism, which does seem to exist on some level in this world today, akin to Fascism. Others though might not. At the same time, I don't think all corporations are bad but I do not like how money is manipulated sometimes by those with power without consideration of things like pride in one's nation, ethics, principles or values. It's too much about the almighty dollar and no one too often cares where the blood money comes from. Then you have banks manipulating and creating dollars as needed and there's more cash in credit in the world today than actually physically exists.

I've been called a Socialist (I'm certainly happy we have the social programs we do in this country) and I guess I've leaned to the left all my life but that doesn't mean I would never, ever vote Conservative. I'd consider both views and what the different politicians have to offer. I'd weigh the different choices before making a decision. Unfortunately the different parties too often seem too much alike to me nowadays. We have overpaid politicians who never seem to cut their own salaries, benefits, whathaveyou but don't mind dishing it out to others. Doesn't matter who's in power, they all tend to do the same. Either try and save and cutback or spend, spend, spend and build up debt only to go through the cycle again and again from one party to the next.

I think there are times government make good decisions and times they make bad, again doesn't matter who's in power. Wherever you are though, there's the potential to lose freedoms if one doesn't sometimes fight to protect them. 

I definitely believe in birth control. Most of my life I've been anti-abortion but I am at the same time in favor of keeping abortion clinics open. Abortion will happen regardless and if it's to be done, it should be done as safe as possible. I am against abortion as a means of birth control however.

Gravekeeper raises some interesting points in that birth control meds can sometimes be used to treat other conditions in addition to just the obvious use.

[Flick James]

No, I'm not joking. Most of the political commentary, at least from those that are taking the time to post, tend to lean to the right. It's not quite as black and white as that, as there are also a number of members here who demonstrate less partisan thinking and avoid the liberal/conservative prisms for the most part.

[Frank81]

No, I'm not joking. Most of the political commentary, at least from those that are taking the time to post, tend to lean to the right. It's not quite as black and white as that, as there are also a number of members here who demonstrate less partisan thinking and avoid the liberal/conservative prisms for the most part.

Well, In NYC, I'm a  fascist, when I was in South Carolina I was called a  'liberal', same opinions, different state. Of course, in Tehran, we'd both be dead or in jail.

[Flick James]

No, I'm not joking. Most of the political commentary, at least from those that are taking the time to post, tend to lean to the right. It's not quite as black and white as that, as there are also a number of members here who demonstrate less partisan thinking and avoid the liberal/conservative prisms for the most part.

Well, In NYC, I'm a  fascist, when I was in South Carolina I was called a  'liberal', same opinions, different state. Of course, in Tehran, we'd both be dead or in jail.

Excellent point. Yes, I am a capitalist pig if I'm among liberals, but around conservatives I often get labeled a liberal. Either way I win. 

[indianasmith]

You are neither liberal, nor conservative, Flick.  You are just simply . . . .

the most interesting person on this board!

[Allhallowsday]

You are neither liberal, nor conservative, Flick.  You are just simply . . . .
the most interesting person on this board!

[lester1/2jr]

this is awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_9J5cJwkLU
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"theres no difference between those welfare queens, wall street, the defense contractors...[it's] the entitlement culture in America"

both sides are already whining about this