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Question:      What effect DO they have on American society?
They help bind us together as a nation - 0 (0%)
They divide us - 6 (42.9%)
They are a sign of growth as a nation - 0 (0%)
Multiculturalism is self-segregation, and political correctness is double-speak - 4 (28.6%)
They don't really do anything - 2 (14.3%)
Other (explain.) - 2 (14.3%)
Total Voters: 9

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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2012, 09:55:49 AM »

Ho hum here we are  at the Badmovies.org  daily societal/ political discussion .

I'm really disappointed in some of  you guys 

Why don't one or you email sometime when there is an interesting movie to discuss.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2012, 10:10:30 AM »

Ho hum here we are  at the Badmovies.org  daily societal/ political discussion .

I'm really disappointed in some of  you guys 

Why don't one or you email sometime when there is an interesting movie to discuss.

Trek,

I do not like the political threads either.  Truth be told, I've come to hate them.  However, the best response if you are not interested in them is probably to ignore them.  Unfortunately, I cannot do so because it is almost mandatory that the mods have to keep an eye on them.

I'll be happy when the election is over and people go back to normal.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2012, 11:07:14 AM »

"A society which eulogizes the average
citizen is one which breeds mediocrity..."

This.  The next step is reprehensible: exalting mediocrity and perpetrating the falsehood that it is equivalent to excellence, whilst castigating true excellence as being elitist...

And the next step is country music. TeddyR
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2012, 02:05:54 PM »

Where in that mix is the drive to excel? To succeed? To invent?

Don't get me wrong.  Love and understanding are all well and good.  But if, as John Lennon sang, there is "nothing to fight or die for" there is also nothing worth living for.

Conflict has been a part of human existence from the dawn of time. The best we can to is strive to always be on the side of right.
And die like Christ? 

      We die, to rise again, as He did.
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If it's true what they say, that GOD created us in His image, then why should we not love creating, and why should we not continue to do so, as carefully and ethically as we can, on whatever scale we're capable of?

     The choice is simple; refuse to create, and refuse to grow, or build, with care and love.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2012, 02:13:31 PM »

Ho hum here we are  at the Badmovies.org  daily societal/ political discussion .

I'm really disappointed in some of  you guys 

Why don't one or you email sometime when there is an interesting movie to discuss.

Trek,

I do not like the political threads either.  Truth be told, I've come to hate them.  However, the best response if you are not interested in them is probably to ignore them.  Unfortunately, I cannot do so because it is almost mandatory that the mods have to keep an eye on them.

I'll be happy when the election is over and people go back to normal.

     ANDREW (and everyone else)

As the one who started this thread, I simply wanted the opinions of those who wanted to give them,not to start an argument, or to provide fodder for snarky remarks; I'm sure just about everyone hates that sorta thing, because it precludes true discussion.

Generally, I've seen mainly civil discussion, even civil disagreement on this board, and I applaud the collective maturity of the members and guests.
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     The choice is simple; refuse to create, and refuse to grow, or build, with care and love.
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2012, 07:03:06 PM »

Great replies RC, Andy and Newt. i can't say honestly I understand where Indy is coming from but he's entitled to his take too. I don't think anyone ever said multiculturalism would be easy. Look at the divisions between the English and the French in Canada to this day. Still the basic idea that each culture should be allowed to exist within one Canada is a good one. Honestly I consider the Newfoundland culture to be distinctive itself. The multicultural world will happen whether one likes it or not I suspect or it'll be some weird mix of everything. Who knows? Still I like that in Canada different cultures are allowed to continue existing.
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2012, 08:45:02 PM »

Why don't people tell China to be more multi cultural? Why is it always the US and Europe? Theres nothing wrong with an area being monolithicly caucasian.
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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2012, 04:59:33 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2012, 08:17:44 AM »

you mean Prince namoor  Hatred
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2012, 12:20:43 PM »

Where in that mix is the drive to excel? To succeed? To invent?

Unless I misread Trudeau's quote, he addressed that right in the middle. By placing too much importance on fitting in, you discourage excellence.

But I also find multiculturalism to be more than a little divisive. Even the most tolerant people can tend to shy away from those who are different, and if they also dress differently and speak a different language in public, it does kind of put up a wall. I know people, who I wouldn't call bigots, who would take that as a sign of disrespect, or at least a desire to have nothing to do with the rest of us. Might not be accurate, might not be rational, but it is human nature.

And there is really nothing that says you have to choose between one culture and another. I see that with many of the nationalities that historically made up the Canadian population. To use my own ancestry as an example, there are plenty of Scottish Canadians (many of whom have never even been to Scotland) who have tartans, family crests and assorted Scottish bric-a-brac decorating their homes and offices, read about Scottish history, enjoy (or even play) bagpipes, attend Scottish festivals and highland games, eat haggis, drink Scotch and quote Robert Burns, and might even wear a kilt on special occasions. But, they aren't doing that in the course of their daily business.

On the one hand, I think diversity enriches a culture, but I also see the need for a common culture.

     I believe that "culture" can be individual, sorta like a big theatrical trunk you open, and wear what you want to, regardless of genetics.
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     The choice is simple; refuse to create, and refuse to grow, or build, with care and love.
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2012, 01:30:49 PM »

While I agree with the idea that you define yourself by your own preferences, I don't agree with it as a definition of culture. Culture, to me, deals with a population, or at least a group with some common connection. A personal culture seems a little bit like a one-man fad.

My point was more that I know people who cherish and enjoy their heritage, but don't necessarily live it full-time. They are, first and foremost, residents of the place where they live right now. It's not really an either-or situation. You can be true to where you come from AND fit in where you are. We all have different layers of identity - our self, family, profession, nationality and on down the list.

I'm not a huge fan of fitting in for its own sake, but I do acknowledge that some amount of it is necessary to form a cohesive community. At the very least, you need to share a common tolerance of differences. Seeing multiculturalism in action, what always strikes me is that one group will go out of their way to accommodate another, who will feel little obligation to reciprocate, which in turn leads to resentment. I think there is an irony in multiculturalism, in that it's built on the assumption that all these different cultures share the same ideals of equality and tolerance and wondrous diversity. Kind of naive, really.
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2012, 10:20:27 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2012, 02:43:18 PM »

You are a wise man.

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If it's true what they say, that GOD created us in His image, then why should we not love creating, and why should we not continue to do so, as carefully and ethically as we can, on whatever scale we're capable of?

     The choice is simple; refuse to create, and refuse to grow, or build, with care and love.
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2012, 03:05:18 PM »

I personally do not like political correctness. I'm not going around trying to offend folks so I don't need someone telling me I have to say things in a way they approve of. Multiculturalism is a way of life here in America....one of the major building blocks of our society. As long as you are a decent person,here honestly or here to try and become a citizen. If you are simply here to get what you can and spit on us then please leave....this is a wonderful country and we all need to pull together as a nation....we shouldn't have to provide for the ungrateful.
I realize that may sound harsh but I just want us all to be as one nation,not a bunch of warring cultures fighting over America.
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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2012, 03:07:20 PM »

I personally do not like political correctness. I'm not going around trying to offend folks so I don't need someone telling me I have to say things in a way they approve of. Multiculturalism is a way of life here in America....one of the major building blocks of our society. As long as you are a decent person,here honestly or here to try and become a citizen. If you are simply here to get what you can and spit on us then please leave....this is a wonderful country and we all need to pull together as a nation....we shouldn't have to provide for the ungrateful.
I realize that may sound harsh but I just want us all to be as one nation,not a bunch of warring cultures fighting over America.

     Exactly.
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If it's true what they say, that GOD created us in His image, then why should we not love creating, and why should we not continue to do so, as carefully and ethically as we can, on whatever scale we're capable of?

     The choice is simple; refuse to create, and refuse to grow, or build, with care and love.
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