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« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2012, 11:20:42 PM »

does seem that countries with strict gun laws have a lot less gun deaths though.
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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2012, 11:51:08 PM »

You know, I can honestly say that I would not be at all surprised if someone aims a little gun violence at WBC one of these days.  You can only sow hatred and vindictiveness so long before it comes back to bite you!
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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2012, 12:19:48 AM »

Well those a***ole @ the Westboro Baptist Church was gonna picket the funeral for the victims, however, the Anonymous group has hacked into the system and gave out personal info from the WBC members, plus the WBC has been official now been labelled as a hate group from We the People petitioning to label them as such.

The number is growing still, I heard it was up to 83K+


About time, those guys are scum.
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2012, 09:54:03 AM »

Well those a***ole @ the Westboro Baptist Church was gonna picket the funeral for the victims, however, the Anonymous group has hacked into the system and gave out personal info from the WBC members, plus the WBC has been official now been labelled as a hate group from We the People petitioning to label them as such.

The number is growing still, I heard it was up to 83K+


About time, those guys are scum.


Might make people feel better, but there's no such thing as a "legally recognized hate group," at least at the Federal level.
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2012, 11:32:52 AM »

Noone needs 3 weapons or 1,000+rounds at a a single time.

Except that's not a very large order.  Papaw would routinely buy well over 1000 rounds at a time to replenish his stash after shooting at crows, coyotes, feral hogs, and the like, plus just shooting at targets for practice and fun.  And three guns at a time isn't a big deal either for, say, a collector or just someone wanting to buy his kids their first guns.

True, that.
It was actually a larger number of ammo the Colorado shooter ordered,(around 2 or 3K if I recall right)  but I was using this as a stepping stone to the actual amount he ordered, so my apologies for any misgivings there. 

The point was that ultimately that it was a number of firearms and rounds that were bought by one person, which I guess noone really addressed until it recently came to light after the fact. Hope that helps clear it up, thanks.
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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2012, 11:58:03 AM »

does seem that countries with strict gun laws have a lot less gun deaths though.

That's true to be sure. However, in the wake of gun bans, it's been said that violence in places like the UK has risen, in the form of knifings or clubbings and sometimes gang beatings. Not sure of the validity of the statements, but there does seem to be a basis for the claim according to some.

Also more interesting, is the somewhat high amount of gun violence in Eastern Europe, despite the govt's there banning personal possession of a weapon.

I do believe there's a reason for this though: black markets.

When the Soviet Union broke up in the 90's, the massive amounts of Cold War-era weaponry went black market, thru arms dealers who had direct connection to the military and organized crime. Let's face it, the fact that 3\4 of the Third World is using AK's and other Russian weaponry should be a testament to the size of the weapons stocks the Soviets turned out at one time.  Just my take on it anyhow...
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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2012, 01:05:58 PM »

Well those a***ole @ the Westboro Baptist Church was gonna picket the funeral for the victims, however, the Anonymous group has hacked into the system and gave out personal info from the WBC members, plus the WBC has been official now been labelled as a hate group from We the People petitioning to label them as such.

The number is growing still, I heard it was up to 83K+


I think they are a hate group....and an insult to Christians.
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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2012, 01:10:41 PM »

Speaking as a mentally ill person, I blame the public education system, & all the errous human beings involved in it.
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« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2012, 05:59:04 PM »

Westboro Baptist Church might be annoying but they didn't shoot and kill those children.
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« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2012, 09:29:23 PM »

No, they just come in and torment devastated families who are laying their little angels to rest.
In a way, I think they are worse than those who kill and then off themselves.  They are always hanging around, waiting for the next opportunity to torment those who are grieving.
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« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2012, 09:55:30 PM »

Westboro Baptist Church might be annoying but they didn't shoot and kill those children.
they are adding salt into an already devastating wound.


Also, isn't it disturbance of the peace illegal? Question if so, and WBC makes a ruckus, couldn't they be arrested then? Question
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« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2012, 05:45:09 AM »

Westboro Baptist Church might be annoying but they didn't shoot and kill those children.

Nobody said they did.

El Misfit and Indy hit the nail on the head: these a***oles are adding salt into a deep, deep wound. And it's not just in this instance, they also protest military funerals.  Hatred
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« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2012, 11:23:52 AM »


Also, isn't it disturbance of the peace illegal? Question if so, and WBC makes a ruckus, couldn't they be arrested then? Question

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If they committed some sort of breach of peace unrelated to their free expression, then maybe. But they're too savvy for that, they've done these protests dozens of times and know how to stay within the law.
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2012, 11:25:28 AM »


Also, isn't it disturbance of the peace illegal? Question if so, and WBC makes a ruckus, couldn't they be arrested then? Question

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If they committed some sort of breach of peace unrelated to their free expression, then maybe. But they're too savvy for that, they've done these protests dozens of times and know how to stay within the law.
I just hope that they slip up, everyone slips up every now and then, I hope that this is one of the times. *Fingers crossed*
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« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2012, 01:09:25 PM »

Well the NRA said to have armed police officer in all schools
http://news.yahoo.com/nra-calls-armed-police-officer-every-school-162851713.html
A good idea at first, however, this does not prevent guns being on school grounds if a kid brings a gun to school. Also, to stop another Adam Lanza, how about getting automatic/assault guns illegal to be sold?
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