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« on: July 14, 2013, 11:40:06 AM »

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/13/19441838-jury-finds-george-zimmerman-not-guilty

NOT F**KING GUILTY

Wouldn't be surprised to see if he is shot to death, Revenge plays with emotion well enough to make people do irrational things. My question- the next  OJ Simpson?
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2013, 11:54:51 AM »

I think there were bad choices made all around.  If George Zimmerman would have stayed in his car, then Trayvon would still be alive.  If Trayvon would have continued on to the house instead of deciding to confront George Zimmerman then he still would be alive.

That said, now I guess I'll wait for the hate to start flinging around.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2013, 02:55:24 PM »

so far, no riots.  I am pleasantly surprised.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2013, 11:49:26 PM »

so far, no riots.  I am pleasantly surprised.

That is exactly what I was concerned about might happen if Mr Zimmerman was found not guilty.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 12:59:52 PM »

      Then, of course, there was the media's bias toward a guilty verdict, with their usual distortions, 4-X, continually showing that picture of Martin as a twelve year-old, instead of how he actually looked....

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 02:06:24 PM »

      Then, of course, there was the media's bias toward a guilty verdict, with their usual distortions, 4-X, continually showing that picture of Martin as a twelve year-old, instead of how he actually looked....




Let's clear that up a little bit.  That's not a picture of Trayvon, that's a picture of a rapper named Jayceon Terrell Taylor.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/martin.asp


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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 02:26:10 PM »

I think alandhopewell was just making a point, Bushma. I'm pretty sure we all know who is actually in that photo.

re: Did you guys know Zimmerman once accused the police of covering up the beating of a black homeless man, by a white cop's kid? Also, I think the 17 year old thug got what was coming to him. I mean, if you're in my neighborhood at night wearing a dark hoodie in the rain, I'm going to check your ass on point without hesitation. Is this profiling, no, it's common sense.

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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 02:51:06 PM »

I think there were bad choices made all around.  If George Zimmerman would have stayed in his car, then Trayvon would still be alive.  If Trayvon would have continued on to the house instead of deciding to confront George Zimmerman then he still would be alive.

That said, now I guess I'll wait for the hate to start flinging around.

That's about the size of it, Bushma. I don't see where this is an unreasonable statement.

Of course, there will be those who will accuse others of the "two wrongs don't make a right' school of secretly siding for one side or the other because you didn't take their side, and as usual, throwing gas on the fire until both sides are at each other's throats will be their top agenda. This thing is far from over. for sure.

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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 02:58:06 PM »

so far, no riots.  I am pleasantly surprised.

That is exactly what I was concerned about might happen if Mr Zimmerman was found not guilty.

There's always the future..when some people say something is far from over, they mean it. The only thing with riots, is that sometimes they're just an excuse to smash and loot and have nothing to do with the problem in general. I'm sure that if rioting DOES occur, there will be those who just want a new 60-inch hi-def TV and a new PS 3 or Xbox 360 instead of justice for Trayvon Martin.
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 03:20:41 PM »

I don't know what really happened.  No one does now except for George Zimmerman.  All I do know is that the prosecution's case was so weak it should never have gone to trial.  For that reason alone, I'm glad Zimmerman was found not guilty.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 04:40:42 PM »

      Then, of course, there was the media's bias toward a guilty verdict, with their usual distortions, 4-X, continually showing that picture of Martin as a twelve year-old, instead of how he actually looked....




Let's clear that up a little bit.  That's not a picture of Trayvon, that's a picture of a rapper named Jayceon Terrell Taylor.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/martin.asp





     Thank you for clearing that up.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 04:57:15 PM »

This has had loads of press coverage here in the uk.

regardless of who's right and wrong here, the way I see it there seems to have been a shift of emphasis, legally, in favour of the right to use deadly force if one fears for one's life in the US. there seems to be a lot of cases emerging where using deadly force will still get a civilian acquitted.

I mean if this guy can get off free then the Trayvon case is a no brainier in comparison, but I gather Texas is not representative of US as a whole...

My question- the next  OJ Simpson?

Not really, IMO. There was never any question that he shot the kid. The OJ case was centered around 'did he actually commit the act?', this one was more 'was the act that was committed justified?' It's a moral minefield and there's very well grounded arguments both for and against the not guilty outcome.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 05:02:45 PM »

This has had loads of press coverage here in the uk.

regardless of who's right and wrong here, the way I see it there seems to have been a shift of emphasis, legally, in favour of the right to use deadly force if one fears for one's life in the US. there seems to be a lot of cases emerging where using deadly force will still get a civilian acquitted.

I mean if this guy can get off free then the Trayvon case is a no brainier in comparison, but I gather Texas is not representative of US as a whole...

My question- the next  OJ Simpson?

Not really, IMO. There was never any question that he shot the kid. The OJ case was centered around 'did he actually commit the act?', this one was more 'was the act that was committed justified?' It's a moral minefield and there's very well grounded arguments both for and against the not guilty outcome.


     This took place in Florida.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2013, 10:38:31 PM »

I think that there are two things that we can reasonably assume to be true:
If George Zimmermann had not followed TM, then the youth would still be alive.
If Treyvon Martin had simply kept walking, he would still be alive.

I don't know that what did happen was a crime.
But I do believe it was a tragedy.
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2013, 11:45:51 AM »

This has had loads of press coverage here in the uk.

regardless of who's right and wrong here, the way I see it there seems to have been a shift of emphasis, legally, in favour of the right to use deadly force if one fears for one's life in the US. there seems to be a lot of cases emerging where using deadly force will still get a civilian acquitted.

I mean if this guy can get off free then the Trayvon case is a no brainier in comparison, but I gather Texas is not representative of US as a whole...


In regards to the acquittal of civilians employing deadly force, the amount of home invasions that have taken place (like the particularly brutal one recently caught on cam in a New Jersey home) and other incidents, gun sales in the U.S. have soared.

And, not to offend anyone, but you have the other side: the rose-colored sunglass-wearing hypocrites on Capitol Hill and Hollywood, AND people like Michael Bloomberg who openly ridicule people who own for self defense as being paranoid. Yet, they sit in homes and mansions guarded by armed individuals 24\7 and see themselves as rational people who speak for the rest of America on gun rights while doing so.

And I for one, will say that if America's elite can either defend themselves or have individuals do so for them, the civilians may also do same. It's YOUR life...


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