Who should be the next president?

[Skull]

Why did Trump tell his supporters to vote on November 28th? That is so bizarre.

I think Indy was chanting 28, 28... vote for Trump on the 28... *evil laugh* 

[Allhallowsday]

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[Skull]

..and you still dont get it. It's not about anti Hillary. It's about BOTH.

It's about repeating Obama 3rd term. Hillary and Sanders would be a repeat of Obama.  

I dont support Hillary-

I hear you and Indy saying the same crap but you guys never get into details.

but WHY? WHY??? Do you support Trump-Tell me why!

[X] Anti-Establishment. We get to see the fake republicans come out of the closet.
[X] Makes the press accountable and takes it to them for screwing around.
[X] Call Terrorist by name and will stop the flood of Muslims (Muslims that maybe be soldiers of ISIS)
[X] Will appoint Constitutionally sound judges to the Supreme Court!
[X] The first republican that told urban Black population that the mess they in is because they keep voting for the same crap [democrats] - in some cases over 50 years! [This alone is worth for any vote!]
[X] We could get gridlock (which means government stops pushing s**t)
[X] Stop the Iran Nuke deal... This is a treaty and should be treated as a treaty.
[X] Build a WALL... Something that should had been done in the 1990's. It's not just the physical structure but we need to get a control on immigration.
[X] End Healthcare.
[X] Thinks Global Warming is a Joke.
[X] He suggested in giving Disable Soldiers medial cards. Our vets don't need to go to some BS military clinic and sit on a long ass waiting list to be treated.
[X] Start a special prosecutor to look into the Hillary's Email Scandal and the FBI for failing on the investigation. [Although I do believe Obama will give Hillary a pardon card]
[X] Protect Gun rights; Hillary will end the second amendment. She said she would do it by executive order to end it. I believe she will, because she would have the judges on her side.

There is much more... :)

All you do,Skull is cut down Hillary

Sorry but somebody has to... I doubt you would know 1/3 of the crap she did if I didn't post it.

[Jim H]

  She said she would do it by executive order to end it. I believe she will, because she would have the judges on her side.

The president's executive orders can't override amendments, so I assume you mean it will defacto eliminate it. What exactly did she say she'd do?

I am actually fairly strongly in favor of gun rights - this is an honest question. Searching yields results talking about her using an executive order to add universal background checks and possibly opening up firearms companies to lawsuits again. I also remember her talking about blocking people on the No Fly list from purchases, which I think is a terrible idea especially as precedent - almost certainly unconstitutional too (eliminates due process).

Is there more I don't know about?  I am default skeptical now when people say a democrat is trying to ban all guns or some such thing. They said that about Obama for 8 straight years of record breaking sales of guns and ammo, while he did almost nothing I'm aware of except be annoying with ammo imports and licensing for gunsmiths.

[Zapranoth]

Skull, you think global warming is all made up?

[Skull]

The president's executive orders can't override amendments, so I assume you mean it will defacto eliminate it. What exactly did she say she'd do? I am actually fairly strongly in favor of gun rights - this is an honest question.

Currently it's on a recent Wikileaks Release. But I've been hearing this little rumor for almost a year.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/07/wikileaks-release-hillary-clinton-press-secretary-says-gun-control-implemented-executive-order/

Searching yields results talking about her using an executive order to add universal background checks and possibly opening up firearms companies to lawsuits again. I also remember her talking about blocking people on the No Fly list from purchases, which I think is a terrible idea especially as precedent - almost certainly unconstitutional too (eliminates due process).

Yep...

Is there more I don't know about?

Intelligence guided by experience…

Here is what we do know:
Healthcare is an unconstitutional law that seemed to pass into law because the judges are radical; therefore I see no evidence that the judges (with an additional new radical judge) will stop Hillary from executive order madness. I see no evidence that the current republicans attempted in balancing the current president (Obama), therefore I have strong doubts they would do Jack s**t to Hillary.

So yes, I do strongly believe that Hillary will stack the judges. She will use executive orders to abolish the second amendment and make the courts decide.

I am default skeptical now when people say a democrat is trying to ban all guns or some such thing. They said that about Obama for 8 straight years of record breaking sales of guns and ammo, while he did almost nothing I'm aware of except be annoying with ammo imports and licensing for gunsmiths.

I totally agree with this skeptical view. But that was before we got the Healthcare bill passed into law on Christmas Eve and Easter Eve and a supreme court that rewrote the law to declare it constructional. And now we have the FBI saying that Hillary obstruct justice yet the FBI also said they find no reason to charge her.  


I've always thought Demolition Man (1993) was an awesome action movie; but we are becoming to that reality. Now I see Demolition Man a gimps into our future.

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Skull, you think global warming is all made up?

Yeah it’s made up. Global Warming is the same anti-American propaganda like the Columbus hate that AHD spewed. If global warming is real than why not every industrialized country plays by the same rules. The worst offender is China.  You should look into Mount St. Helens eruption and the effects it cause.

[Allhallowsday]

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Skull, you think global warming is all made up?

Yeah it’s made up. Global Warming is the same anti-American propaganda like the Columbus hate that AHD spewed. If global warming is real than why not every industrialized country plays by the same rules. The worst offender is China.  You should look into Mount St. Helens eruption and the effects it cause.

Blah blah blah.  "Anti-American"?  Columbus wasn't here to found the United States; he happened to find a whole world of resources to loot and peoples to be enslaved. 
You swallow whatever arch conservative hacks throw out, yet, understand NONE of it, and cannot keep a single thought in your head. 

[Skull]

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Skull, you think global warming is all made up?

Yeah it’s made up. Global Warming is the same anti-American propaganda like the Columbus hate that AHD spewed. If global warming is real than why not every industrialized country plays by the same rules. The worst offender is China.  You should look into Mount St. Helens eruption and the effects it cause.

Blah blah blah.  "Anti-American"?  Columbus wasn't here to found the United States; he happened to find a whole world of resources to loot and peoples to be enslaved. 
You swallow whatever arch conservative hacks throw out, yet, understand NONE of it, and cannot keep a single thought in your head. 

Go back in time and assassinate Columbus and see if we are posting messages!

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[Allhallowsday]

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Skull, you think global warming is all made up?

Yeah it’s made up. Global Warming is the same anti-American propaganda like the Columbus hate that AHD spewed. If global warming is real than why not every industrialized country plays by the same rules. The worst offender is China.  You should look into Mount St. Helens eruption and the effects it cause.

Blah blah blah.  "Anti-American"?  Columbus wasn't here to found the United States; he happened to find a whole world of resources to loot and peoples to be enslaved. 
You swallow whatever arch conservative hacks throw out, yet, understand NONE of it, and cannot keep a single thought in your head. 

Go back in time and assassinate Columbus and see if we are posting messages!

That makes no sense, which of course I can at least believe you understand.  We are both here and who knows what direction world history would have taken had Columbus done otherwise?   We are here, he was here, that all being history.  The great benefit of history is the opportunity to learn. 

[Skull]

That makes no sense, which of course I can at least believe you understand.  We are both here and who knows what direction world history would have taken had Columbus done otherwise?   We are here, he was here, that all being history.  The great benefit of history is the opportunity to learn. 

I don't understand your hate with Columbus, unless your trolling.

Sure what followed after the discovery of the new world didn't go smoothly, but back in those days the general population thought the world was flat. The church thought the world was flat. The world of god said the world was flat. Saying something else would put you to death. That's the reality, especially during the Spanish Inquisition. 

[Jim H]

That makes no sense, which of course I can at least believe you understand.  We are both here and who knows what direction world history would have taken had Columbus done otherwise?   We are here, he was here, that all being history.  The great benefit of history is the opportunity to learn. 

I don't understand your hate with Columbus, unless your trolling.

Sure what followed after the discovery of the new world didn't go smoothly, but back in those days the general population thought the world was flat. The church thought the world was flat. The world of god said the world was flat. Saying something else would put you to death. That's the reality, especially during the Spanish Inquisition. 

He's just saying Columbus is an awful human being and therefore doesn't deserve any kind of veneration beyond acknowledgement of his historical importance.  He's certainly worth remembering and discussing in context, but I don't understand why thinking a rapist slaver is awful is "hating". 

As an aside, you may find this of interest. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

[Skull]

That makes no sense, which of course I can at least believe you understand.  We are both here and who knows what direction world history would have taken had Columbus done otherwise?   We are here, he was here, that all being history.  The great benefit of history is the opportunity to learn. 

I don't understand your hate with Columbus, unless your trolling.

Sure what followed after the discovery of the new world didn't go smoothly, but back in those days the general population thought the world was flat. The church thought the world was flat. The world of god said the world was flat. Saying something else would put you to death. That's the reality, especially during the Spanish Inquisition. 

He's just saying Columbus is an awful human being and therefore doesn't deserve any kind of veneration beyond acknowledgement of his historical importance.  He's certainly worth remembering and discussing in context, but I don't understand why thinking a rapist slaver is awful is "hating". 

The Great Wall of China and the pyramids were built by Rapist and Slavers. That was how the world was. From mining salt, building castles and designing ships - these were all created by Rapist Slaver. There is no great creation, great design, great discovery, great accomplishment that was made from the caveman to the 1800's without blood of slaves. If we are going to judge Columbus than we should judge it all. But we don't because the judgement of Columbus is based on Anti-American Hate Propaganda.

The importance of Columbus wasn't just the discovery of the new world but he open door of modern science to the church.

As an aside, you may find this of interest. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

I know there is a Flat Earth Society... I'll check it out :)

[lester1/2jr]

more to the point we don't really do any Columbus stuff as a culture. The pilgrims to the Constitution is more America than whatever Columbus did which seems to be a hodge podge of evil and random acts. The idea that he "discovered" America is an old racist notion that the people here were dark skinned and therefore non people.


Also, for all the hand wringing about trump most people agree he won the GOP primary debates and the second though not the first debate. Maybe THAT'S why his supporters like him, not because blue collar white people are horrible or because Russians are hacking the DNC and revealing what the little people shouldn't know about how the sausage is made. Occum's razor as they say.

[RCMerchant]

Skull-we get it-Egypt,American Indians,Chinese,Vikings-blah blah blah-all used horrifying tactics and racism was accepted as a non issue.
But it's NOT NOW.  And Trump is an egoist racist misogynist .
And global warming is a FACT. Dam-get your head out of the sand. "Anti-American"? How is it anti american-that statement makes no sense. All you do is spout party line propaganda-you back NOTHING up with actual facts-unless it comes out of Rush Limburger's mouth-a pill popping radio show shmuck.