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« on: September 11, 2018, 10:48:21 PM »

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/the-predator-20th-century-fox-cuts-scene-with-registered-sex-offender-after-complaint-from?amp&__twitter_impression=true



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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2018, 02:27:42 PM »

Personally, I think what they did was wrong.  

The guy paid his debt to society, there was nothing prohibiting him from working on the movie, and the scene was already filmed.

This is just a whining actress that cried and got her way.  She had no problems acting with him until after she found out he committed a crime years ago.  

If she had known about this ahead of time and felt that she wouldn't be comfortable working with him, that's a different story entirely.   

The idea that the cast and crew were supposed to be informed of his past crimes is insane.  Should anyone who works on a movie be required to stand up and receive anything they've ever done that was against the law before they start filming? 

He did the crime.  He did the time.  His past is none of your business. 
I kinda don't want to see this movie now because of her and I wanted to see this movie. 
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2018, 06:40:48 PM »

I kinda felt the same way but wasn't sure about sayind so.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2018, 02:44:09 PM »

From what I've read on this case it wasn't that he has a criminal past that was the issue for the actress and the studio, it was the fact that it hadn't been disclosed to the studio or the cast who were acting with this man. Who's to say what would have happened if it had been disclosed ahead of time.

He is a registered sex offender and in this day and age people are going to want to avoid being tied to that. The current political and social state requires that everyone examine who they are working with to avoid being vilianized for it. He was convicted of crimes involving a minor and even Shane Black has said that he was misled about what had happened in the case. The man may have served his time but he is still a registered sex offender and has limitations and legal requirements from that.

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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2018, 05:23:07 PM »

So he should come onto the set and say "HI EVERYBODY!  LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU!  BTW I'M A REGISTERED SEX! OFFENDER! "

Seriously a convicted murderer isn't required to tell people his  past..
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2018, 05:39:42 PM »

As long as he's not doing anything to break the limits that were placed on him, it's nobody elses business what he did or did not get convinced of.

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The current political and social state requires that everyone examine who they are working with to avoid being vilianized for it.
And this is NOT something we need to encourage. 
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2018, 06:31:41 PM »

Personally, I think what they did was wrong.  

The guy paid his debt to society, there was nothing prohibiting him from working on the movie, and the scene was already filmed.

This is just a whining actress that cried and got her way.  She had no problems acting with him until after she found out he committed a crime years ago.  

If she had known about this ahead of time and felt that she wouldn't be comfortable working with him, that's a different story entirely.   

The idea that the cast and crew were supposed to be informed of his past crimes is insane.  Should anyone who works on a movie be required to stand up and receive anything they've ever done that was against the law before they start filming? 

He did the crime.  He did the time.  His past is none of your business. 
I kinda don't want to see this movie now because of her and I wanted to see this movie. 

Are you sure that there was nothing to prevent him from working on the movie, if there wasn't then he has grounds to sue for discrimination, it's been made clear why his scenes were cut from the movie so I would think that he would have grounds to sue.

It's one of those situations where we don't know all of the facts. I've been researching the sex offender registry laws and haven't been able to find out much but I do know that since his victim was 14 that the California laws on what he can and cannot do as a registered sex offender are a bit stricter and it may be a case of legally it should have been disclosed but wasn't because there's at least one minor on the set that he could have interacted with. Not being aware of where he is registered also means we don't know the exact laws and rules that he needs to follow.

I'm not defending anyone on this just stating that we don't have all of the facts but it seems that even his former supporters are taking that back. It could be because of threats to their careers or that they honestly feel that they cannot support him.

If you want to see the movie go see the movie, his role wasn't one that would impact the storyline if it could be so easily cut.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2018, 07:51:47 PM »

I just find that be part of the real hypocritical nature of Hollywood.  If the guy had been Roman Polanski, they'd have no problem working with and heaping rewards on him.
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2018, 11:41:19 PM »

∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆THIS FTW!!!! ∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2018, 12:30:17 AM »

The guy is a sex offender. Not really feeling any sympathy for him at all. He may have been to prison and served his time, but...

If you really think he has paid his debt to society and everything is all square, ask yourself one question. If you had a daughter the same age as his victim, would you trust him to baby sit her?

Somehow, any sympathies I have seem to lie with his potential victim rather than some dirty pervert who tried something it on with an underage kid. Just to me however to me a crime of that nature isn't something you get a second chance on, but then I've always had a problem with child molesters.

My thoughts are along the lines of ok, he got caught don't that. Was it his first time, or had be gotten away with this before (and my understanding is that crimes of this nature are rarely one off's).

Frankly I'd quite happily throw guys like him Polanski and Salva down a pit and leave them all to rot together.

I am quite proud that when I found child porn pictures on my friends computer I made sure that not only did I report him to the police, I took steps to make sure everyone he came into contact with him knew exactly who he was and what he'd done. If I was working beside, or the neighbour of someone who had committed a crime like this damn right I'd want to know about it. I think the right to protect your children trumps his right to privacy. Even though this happened 15 years ago to this day I still made sure when he moved towns, people in the place he moved to found out about his past.

If you are going to have live beside or work with someone like that, it sure as s**t is your business, and no amount of PC bull about having what rights they have after they have served their time is ever going to beat that for me.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2018, 08:08:51 AM »

I agree with Alex. "He did his time." f**k that.
Child molesters don't usually change they're stripes.
He get's no sympathy from me.
Should have cut his balls off. And let him rot in prison for the rest of his life.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2018, 08:23:40 AM »

So he should come onto the set and say "HI EVERYBODY!  LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU!  BTW I'M A REGISTERED SEX! OFFENDER! "

Seriously a convicted murderer isn't required to tell people his  past..


I don't know how it is in the US but in the UK you are required to list any what are called unspent convictions to any employer on a job application.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2018, 06:15:04 PM »

So he should come onto the set and say "HI EVERYBODY!  LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU!  BTW I'M A REGISTERED SEX! OFFENDER! "

Seriously a convicted murderer isn't required to tell people his  past..


I don't know how it is in the US but in the UK you are required to list any what are called unspent convictions to any employer on a job application.


For sex offenders- you are listed.
But I reckon if you have enough pull or money-who cares , right?
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2018, 02:25:20 AM »

It is sadly true that having money gives you a certain amount of protection from the law, something that seems to be a universal truth across our world.
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2018, 03:10:42 AM »

Am I the only one that find it absurd or at least poorly thought out to tag people with a virtual kiss of death in employment terms that expect them to ever be useful members of society again?  Question
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