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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2019, 02:35:16 PM »

I gather some countries in Europe have the police (or some other criminal authority) do a background check, and basically it amounts to a pass/fail for the specific job.  That is, if you were convicted of embezzling twice at a bank, you'd fail the background check when applying at a bank.  If you're a convicted child molester trying to become a school custodian, you'd fail.  But "pass/fail" is all the check gets you - they don't even learn why you failed.  I'd like like to see some kind of a system like this, where you can lose out on opportunities related to high likelihood of recidivism for your particular history, that sort of thing, but not for almost every job ever.

This happens also in the most "serious" jobs in Argentina, although I can't say for certain how much it affects every position. It's also a requirement to present a full medical exam, although I assume that happens everywhere.

Are you in Argentina? My cousin's daughter lived there for about four years and loved it.

Born and currently living there.

Excellent! You meet people from all over here.

Tomatela con soda! (I hope I'm using that right. She said it was BA slang for "Talk you later, life is good..." At least I think that was her term.....)
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2019, 06:24:37 AM »

I gather some countries in Europe have the police (or some other criminal authority) do a background check, and basically it amounts to a pass/fail for the specific job.  That is, if you were convicted of embezzling twice at a bank, you'd fail the background check when applying at a bank.  If you're a convicted child molester trying to become a school custodian, you'd fail.  But "pass/fail" is all the check gets you - they don't even learn why you failed.  I'd like like to see some kind of a system like this, where you can lose out on opportunities related to high likelihood of recidivism for your particular history, that sort of thing, but not for almost every job ever.

This happens also in the most "serious" jobs in Argentina, although I can't say for certain how much it affects every position. It's also a requirement to present a full medical exam, although I assume that happens everywhere.

Are you in Argentina? My cousin's daughter lived there for about four years and loved it.

Born and currently living there.

Excellent! You meet people from all over here.

Tomatela con soda! (I hope I'm using that right. She said it was BA slang for "Talk you later, life is good..." At least I think that was her term.....)

Close! Like with any other slang term, it gets annoying to explain, but it's basically another form of "take it easy". This site is quite accurate and may help if you're interested in other phrases: https://www.fluentu.com/blog/spanish/argentine-spanish-slang-phrases/
Some particular words have great history, like the insult "pelotudo", which comes from times were certain soldiers used giant rock balls to fight and were sent to the front lines, usually to die first. It became an aggravation many years after that, when it started to be used for people who were too risky and careless with their decisions, and nowadays it's the ultimate insult for everything: idiot, stupid, annoying, useless, worthless, shortsighted... "pelotudo" can cover them all!

This thread went to strange places.  Drink
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2019, 07:19:59 AM »

I always find this to be an interesting topic.  There are a lot of jobs that won't hire a felon, so having the box on the application simply saves the employer time and money.  If the box wasn't there, they would end up making an offer to someone where the final process is determined by the background check.  When the background check is run the person would come back with a felony and not get the job.  Wasting the time and money of the employer and the person who's time was spent.  I believe that having the box provides value for both parties. 
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