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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2022, 02:51:57 PM »
"hugely entertaining"
 Steady on there, Reverend. It remains pretty pretentious and long winded at times.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2022, 03:48:09 PM »
Quote from: Dr. Whom on December 08, 2022, 02:51:57 PM
"hugely entertaining"
 Steady on there, Reverend. It remains pretty pretentious and long winded at times.

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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2022, 05:22:19 PM »
Quote from: Allhallowsday on December 08, 2022, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. Whom on December 08, 2022, 02:51:57 PM
"hugely entertaining"
 Steady on there, Reverend. It remains pretty pretentious and long winded at times.

Like   all the time.

I LOVE pretentious movies, as long as they're also completely crazy! Ken Russell is totally my jam. I don't find ZARDOZ too long-winded, though. It has a doldrum or two, but there's enough excitement in the rest for two movies. The site is devoted to appreciating bad movies!
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2022, 10:27:36 PM »
Quote from: Rev. Powell on December 08, 2022, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on December 08, 2022, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. Whom on December 08, 2022, 02:51:57 PM
"hugely entertaining"
 Steady on there, Reverend. It remains pretty pretentious and long winded at times.

Like   all the time.

I LOVE pretentious movies, as long as they're also completely crazy! Ken Russell is totally my jam. I don't find ZARDOZ too long-winded, though. It has a doldrum or two, but there's enough excitement in the rest for two movies. The site is devoted to appreciating bad movies!

"Hugely entertaining" I think might've been hyperbolic.  In any case, I found it pretty boring but we agree it's bad.  And I love bad movies. Did I mention I love the ending? 
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2022, 10:39:30 PM »
Quote from: Allhallowsday on December 08, 2022, 10:27:36 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on December 08, 2022, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: Allhallowsday on December 08, 2022, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: Dr. Whom on December 08, 2022, 02:51:57 PM
"hugely entertaining"
 Steady on there, Reverend. It remains pretty pretentious and long winded at times.

Like   all the time.

I LOVE pretentious movies, as long as they're also completely crazy! Ken Russell is totally my jam. I don't find ZARDOZ too long-winded, though. It has a doldrum or two, but there's enough excitement in the rest for two movies. The site is devoted to appreciating bad movies!

"Hugely entertaining" I think might've been hyperbolic.  In any case, I found it pretty boring but we agree it's bad.  And I love bad movies. Did I mention I love the ending? 

We'll have to agree to disagree. I never thought I'd hear ZARDOZ referred to as "boring," but I guess the term is subjective. It's a cult movie for a reason; not everyone is on the same wavelength. I am. For me, I watch at least one movie a week that's more boring than ZARDOZ.
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2022, 10:59:40 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2022, 11:57:20 PM »
Quote from: Rev. Powell on December 08, 2022, 10:39:30 PM
...We'll have to agree to disagree.
About what?  I think you know it's bad...

Quote from: Rev. Powell on December 08, 2022, 10:39:30 PM

...I never thought I'd hear ZARDOZ referred to as "boring," but I guess the term is subjective. It's a cult movie for a reason; not everyone is on the same wavelength. I am. For me, I watch at least one movie a week that's more boring than ZARDOZ.

You're on the same wavelength?  What wavelength might that be?   Question

Kind of can't believe you're defending ZARDOZ... and I like boring movies!   TeddyR
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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2022, 01:23:02 AM »
Love it or hate it, Zardoz! was not a normal movie. It was kind of a one of a kind movie, unique, not a remake or a rip-off of anything else.

For that alone it deserves some kudos.
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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2022, 08:46:35 AM »
Quote from: Allhallowsday on December 08, 2022, 11:57:20 PM
Quote from: Rev. Powell on December 08, 2022, 10:39:30 PM
...We'll have to agree to disagree.
About what?  I think you know it's bad...

Quote from: Rev. Powell on December 08, 2022, 10:39:30 PM

...I never thought I'd hear ZARDOZ referred to as "boring," but I guess the term is subjective. It's a cult movie for a reason; not everyone is on the same wavelength. I am. For me, I watch at least one movie a week that's more boring than ZARDOZ.

You're on the same wavelength?  What wavelength might that be?   Question

Kind of can't believe you're defending ZARDOZ... and I like boring movies!   TeddyR

Disagree about it being hugely entertaining. I say ZARDOZ is both bad and hugely entertaining, like PLAN 9 or THE ROOM. I'm on the wavelength of ZARDOZ lovers, you're not.

ZARDOZ has lots of defenders besides me.

https://nerdist.com/article/zardoz-insane-cult-classic-must-see/
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2022, 10:32:13 AM »
Well, you have me at the 'hugely entertaining' bit. I do agree that Zardoz is certainly worth seeing, but recent movies I'd consider hugely entertaining are things like Everything Everywhere All At Once, or See How They Run, and I can't put Zardoz in the same category, not by a long way.
Perhaps I have less tolerance for pretentious movies. Back in high school with a bunch of mates we used to write stuff, and we thought we were so terribly clever. Zardoz reminds me of those days. Also, I don't buy the 'I meant it to be a parody all along' defence for one second.
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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2022, 11:29:52 AM »
Quote from: Dr. Whom on December 09, 2022, 10:32:13 AM
Well, you have me at the 'hugely entertaining' bit. I do agree that Zardoz is certainly worth seeing, but recent movies I'd consider hugely entertaining are things like Everything Everywhere All At Once, or See How They Run, and I can't put Zardoz in the same category, not by a long way.
Perhaps I have less tolerance for pretentious movies. Back in high school with a bunch of mates we used to write stuff, and we thought we were so terribly clever. Zardoz reminds me of those days. Also, I don't buy the 'I meant it to be a parody all along' defence for one second.

Gives me an excuse to post an old article I wrote: https://366weirdmovies.com/in-defense-of-pretense/
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« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2022, 08:53:03 PM »
My favorite Boorman movie is still Point Blank, and I think what makes it admirable isn't that it's pretentious but is able to make you unaware of such:

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« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2022, 09:32:39 PM »
Quote from: ralfy on December 09, 2022, 08:53:03 PM
My favorite Boorman movie is still Point Blank, and I think what makes it admirable isn't that it's pretentious but is able to make you unaware of such:

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I love POINT BLANK, too.
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« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2022, 09:37:06 PM »
I liked Boorman's Excalibur.
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2022, 01:37:49 AM »
Having read you article, I think we mean slightly different things by pretentious
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