My 2 cents worth about THE MATRIX: RELOADED

[spikesangel]

i think the reason a lot of people don't really care for the matrix reloaded is because the first movie lured everyone into a world where reality was on its end.  from what i understand reloaded fails to follow through.  sure it's cutting edge action, but the Wachowski brothers have tantalized a whole generation of folk into philosophical wirework, as it were.

i hope revolutions will pick up the mantle and carry on with the trip into perception and reality, because for mindless action i can watch a Dudikoff flick.



..and another thing...why does EVERY movie, every...single...one..HAVE to have the romance/sex angle.  wouldn't it be refreshing if The One was a guy who was so worried about saving humanity that he decided to forego making the beast with two backs, in favor of insuring that all of humanity could do more than dream about doing just that thing?

[Evan3]

I dont know Spikes, the love angle actually plays a very important part in the second Matrix. It isnt superfluous now.

[The Burgomaster]

In all fairness, I'm willing to give any movie a second (or third) chance. As I said before, I'm not a big fan of the MATRIX, but I own the DVD and I have watched it 2 or 3 times. I'll certainly give RELOADED another chance.

But, in all honesty, I did not find the highway chase scene to be very exciting. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood . . . I'm not really sure. But I will give it another try on DVD.

When I compare my first viewing of RELOADED to my first viewings of THE TERMINATOR, ALIENS, hell . . . even DIE HARD, there really is no comparison. I thought those movies were much better action films. (And you can all start firing off the Bruce Willis jokes, but the first DIE HARD movie raised the bar on action films to an entirely new level).

So, let me give RELOADED another try.

I have been known to change my opinions before. A few examples are the following movies, which I did not like the first time I saw them, but changed my mind the second time around:

* THE POPE OF GREENWICH VILLAGE
* JEEPERS CREEPERS (you can all start firing off the jokes about this one, too)
* MEAN STREETS (has actually become one of my all-time favorite movies . . . it bored me to death the first time I saw it)

So, maybe RELOADED still has a chance.

Please pray for me.

[JohnL]

>why does EVERY movie, every...single...one..HAVE to have the romance/sex
>angle.

Some unwritten rule that every movie has to have at least 2 different elements to the plot.

[Grumpy Guy]

You know, I don't mind the Neo/Trinity thing.  I really don't.  I DID like it better in the first one when it was more understated, but we can't have anything.

It's the Rave/Orgy thing that I coulda done without.  I was sitting there watching, thinking "Wow.  Okay.  So THAT'S how it is in Zion..." for a few seconds.  

As we moved into the second minute of the thing, I was starting to wonder if this was going to descend into an Action/Porn flick.  Wouldn't that have been fun...

And, as a side note, I was (am) a big fan of the original Die Hard.  It did indeed raise the action movie to a new plateau.

[Bog]

Yeah, I completely agree.

I try to make the most of a movie-watching experience wherever it be, but both of the matrixes were the kind of movie where I constantly looked at my watch. I thought the second had fight scenes that were excessively long, and while I thought the car chase was original, it also went for too long. I also thought the bit at the end where Neo spoke to the architect of the matrix perhaps had some overdone vocabulary. I will also probably see the third one, but all-in-all, a very overrated series.

Bog,
Brisbane AUSTRALIA

[Jim H.]

A bit of advice for Burgomaster: never buy any of the Godzilla, Blondie and Dagwood or Charlie Chan movies.  

That bit aside, I have to say I was a bit disappointed with Reloaded.  The philosophizing didn't really add much, the ending was kind of dumb, etc.  The fight scenes were a big improvement over the first, but they still weren't that great - we've seen far better from Yuen Woo-Ping, like Fist of Legend or Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.  And there were really no gunfights at all, which kinda sucks.  The freeway chase was very good, and the high point of the movie as far as I'm concerned.  

I'd DEFINETLY agree that the Terminator, Aliens and Die Hard are much better action movies, though of a much much different mold.  The only type of action movie that America does best is the survival/desperation action subgenre, ala Die Hard.  There really is no equivalent in foreign movies, at least that I've seen.

I still can't believe on another movie forum people were saying Reloaded didn't deserve an R.  WTF?