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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2003, 10:58:57 PM »

There are no new concepts left, therefore the story must be made original by it's execution .  In other  words people are going to keep making remakes and using plots from previously  made sources.  The trouble is most of the dolts making these remakes don't have a clue on how to put an original spin on the plot.  

It can be done. I give as example Alien,  a plot  (group of people trapped somewhere inescapable being terrorized by a monster).  Ripley Scott and Dan O'Bannon did a great job of putting a new spin on it.

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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2003, 03:36:20 AM »

That's true geezer.  An English professor once told me there were only eight basic plots.  I can't remember all of them, but here are some...

FORBIDDEN LOVE- two people love each other but it can't work for whatever reason. (Romeo&Juliet is the obvious one here, as are practically every teen movie ever made)
REVENGE - bad guys kill hero's family/friend/dog.  Hero kills them.  (Outlaw Josey Wales, anything with Steven Segal, etc)
SURVIVAL TALE - hero is stripped of or isolated from that which makes him secure and must survive against the odds (many horror flicks, including Alien fit here, also Watership Down is a good non-horror one).
EXCALIBER TALE - an unknown finds himself suddenly thrust into a great struggle where he holds the key to good prevailing (think Star Wars or Lord of the Rings as a good example, or The Rock as a crap example).
SIN AND REDEMPTION - Hero screws up and struggles to make things right.
WHODUNIT - Basic mystery plot.

That's all I can remember, but there's at least two more.  Basically it isn't the plot that matters so much as what you use it to say.  Some good movies might use the revenge plot to send the message that vengence is an empty fruitless act...  while Stallone or Segal might use the revenge plot to send the message that it sure feels good to blow the head off a guy who killed your partnet - makes things all better.
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2003, 12:11:00 PM »

True, Eirik & Geezer, there are only so many plots.  However, that doesn't excuse making a *nearly exact copy* of certain scenes, dialouge, or situations in previous movies.
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