COVID-19 Rant

[zelmo73]

Cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are all rising, almost exclusively among the unvaccinated.
I am SO FREAKING SICK of anti-vaxxer morons on social media peddling disinformation that is literally KILLING people, I'm about ready to just say let natural selection do its work, and be done with it!
Maybe we could re-christen the Delta Variant as the "Trumpers Virus."  Or the "Idiot Eraser!"

It's a good thing that the President received the Trump Vaccine before entering the Oval Office, though.

What vaccine would that be? I believe the ones he tried to claim credit for his involvement in were able to quite easily prove he had nothing to do with their development and had done nothing to fund them. Is this a new vaccine or has new evidence came to light?

The Pfizer vaccine was approved for distribution by the Trump Administration. Joe could not have gotten the vaccine without Trump's FDA approval.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/12/23/trump-administration-purchases-additional-100-million-doses-covid-19-investigational-vaccine-pfizer.html

[Alex]

And that makes it trumps vaccine... I see. And of course he would have been totally unable to say, travel to another country that had approved it and get it there if it hadn't been approved in the US.

[Alex]

I guess since Covid got in on trump's watch, that must make it his virus too by your logic.

[Allhallowsday]

...It's a good thing that the President received the Trump Vaccine before entering the Oval Office, though.

Y' mean the one with the bleach or the one with the Windex? 

[lester1/2jr]

How did it start? in the wet market or the lab?

I 'm guessing it was the latter. We've had all kinds of SARS and stuff before and it was never this bad

[zelmo73]

I guess since Covid got in on trump's watch, that must make it his virus too by your logic.

That is the far left's current brand of logic in our country, yes. They are pinning over 500,000 COVID deaths on Trump simply because they happened on his watch, so naturally the vaccine's emergence should be pinned on Trump too. How many COVID deaths have occurred since Biden took the Oval Office  again?

[Alex]

I guess since Covid got in on trump's watch, that must make it his virus too by your logic.

That is the far left's current brand of logic in our country, yes. They are pinning over 500,000 COVID deaths on Trump simply because they happened on his watch, so naturally the vaccine's emergence should be pinned on Trump too. How many COVID deaths have occurred since Biden took the Oval Office  again?

Well if the vaccine is his just because he happened to be in office at the time, then it logically follows that if the disease happened just because he happened to be in office then he is equally responsible. Biden was just unlucky to inherit trumps f**k up.

[zelmo73]

And that makes it trumps vaccine... I see. And of course he would have been totally unable to say, travel to another country that had approved it and get it there if it hadn't been approved in the US.

What other country had the vaccine when Biden got his second dose in December? Russia had the Sputnik vaccine before Trump's FDA had authorized Pfizer in December. Do you think the U.S. would have validated that as a legit vaccine?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7008e3.htm

[Alex]

And that makes it trumps vaccine... I see. And of course he would have been totally unable to say, travel to another country that had approved it and get it there if it hadn't been approved in the US.

What other country had the vaccine when Biden got his second dose in December? Russia had the Sputnik vaccine before Trump's FDA had authorized Pfizer in December. Do you think the U.S. would have validated that as a legit vaccine?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7008e3.htm

Well, the UK authorised it before the US for a start, so we had it.

[zelmo73]

I guess since Covid got in on trump's watch, that must make it his virus too by your logic.

That is the far left's current brand of logic in our country, yes. They are pinning over 500,000 COVID deaths on Trump simply because they happened on his watch, so naturally the vaccine's emergence should be pinned on Trump too. How many COVID deaths have occurred since Biden took the Oval Office  again?

Well if the vaccine is his just because he happened to be in office at the time, then it logically follows that if the disease happened just because he happened to be in office then he is equally responsible. Biden was just unlucky to inherit trumps f**k up.

Fauci was pretty confident of the progress of the engineered virus in the Wuhan lab, which is why Fauci issued this "warning" before Trump had even entered the Oval Office in 2017.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fact-check-fauci-warned-trump-165536941.html

[zelmo73]

And that makes it trumps vaccine... I see. And of course he would have been totally unable to say, travel to another country that had approved it and get it there if it hadn't been approved in the US.

What other country had the vaccine when Biden got his second dose in December? Russia had the Sputnik vaccine before Trump's FDA had authorized Pfizer in December. Do you think the U.S. would have validated that as a legit vaccine?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7008e3.htm

Well, the UK authorised it before the US for a start, so we had it.

Would Trump's FDA have validated that as a legit vaccine though? Probably not. Trump wouldn't even allow the Brits into the country last year because of how they handled the COVID outbreak. Joe would have gotten the British jab then would have been stuck in quarantine looking like an idiot with an illegitimate British vaccine flowing in his veins.

[Alex]

I guess since Covid got in on trump's watch, that must make it his virus too by your logic.

That is the far left's current brand of logic in our country, yes. They are pinning over 500,000 COVID deaths on Trump simply because they happened on his watch, so naturally the vaccine's emergence should be pinned on Trump too. How many COVID deaths have occurred since Biden took the Oval Office  again?

Well if the vaccine is his just because he happened to be in office at the time, then it logically follows that if the disease happened just because he happened to be in office then he is equally responsible. Biden was just unlucky to inherit trumps f**k up.

Fauci was pretty confident of the progress of the engineered virus in the Wuhan lab, which is why Fauci issued this "warning" before Trump had even entered the Oval Office in 2017.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fact-check-fauci-warned-trump-165536941.html

You mean the engineered virus that the section of the US army that specialised in biological warfare has said wasn't engineered and if you are right and it was engineered (something that Fauci doesn't say in that article btw, he simply says that other presidents have faced infectious diseases and so will trump), then trump was too much of a coward to stand up to the Chinese and actually do anything about it.

EDIT: Then again, he did back out of war with Iran and not to mention the whole Private Bonespur's thing so I guess we shouldn't be surprised that when it came to taking real action he fell far short.

[Alex]

And that makes it trumps vaccine... I see. And of course he would have been totally unable to say, travel to another country that had approved it and get it there if it hadn't been approved in the US.

What other country had the vaccine when Biden got his second dose in December? Russia had the Sputnik vaccine before Trump's FDA had authorized Pfizer in December. Do you think the U.S. would have validated that as a legit vaccine?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7008e3.htm

Well, the UK authorised it before the US for a start, so we had it.

Would Trump's FDA have validated that as a legit vaccine though? Probably not. Trump wouldn't even allow the Brits into the country last year because of how they handled the COVID outbreak. Joe would have gotten the British jab then would have been stuck in quarantine looking like an idiot with an illegitimate British vaccine flowing in his veins.

Can you make your mind up. You just said they did validate it. Now you are claiming they wouldn't have and yet they did.

EDIT Oh and instead of being trumps vaccine its now the Brits one?

Oh, I should also point out that despite the lack of a travel corridor politicians were still able to travel to the G7 meeting in Cornwall and then return to the states. So much for being stranded in the UK. Might want to follow international events a bit closer before making an argument like that. And as someone in the forces I should point out that despite the travel corridor thing, people are still travelling between the US and UK for work on things like Lightning II so travel back and forth is happening so it isn't just high ranking politicians and it happened during trumps time in office too.

I do agree that the government over here handled it all rather badly, however the rub is that despite that, they still handled it better than trump.

[zelmo73]

And that makes it trumps vaccine... I see. And of course he would have been totally unable to say, travel to another country that had approved it and get it there if it hadn't been approved in the US.

What other country had the vaccine when Biden got his second dose in December? Russia had the Sputnik vaccine before Trump's FDA had authorized Pfizer in December. Do you think the U.S. would have validated that as a legit vaccine?

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7008e3.htm

Well, the UK authorised it before the US for a start, so we had it.

Would Trump's FDA have validated that as a legit vaccine though? Probably not. Trump wouldn't even allow the Brits into the country last year because of how they handled the COVID outbreak. Joe would have gotten the British jab then would have been stuck in quarantine looking like an idiot with an illegitimate British vaccine flowing in his veins.

Can you make your mind up. You just said they did validate it. Now you are claiming they wouldn't have and yet they did.

EDIT Oh and instead of being trumps vaccine its now the Brits one?

Oh, I should also point out that despite the lack of a travel corridor politicians were still able to travel to the G7 meeting in Cornwall and then return to the states. So much for being stranded in the UK. Might want to follow international events a bit closer before making an argument like that. And as someone in the forces I should point out that despite the travel corridor thing, people are still travelling between the US and UK for work on things like Lightning II so travel back and forth is happening so it isn't just high ranking politicians and it happened during trumps time in office too.

I do agree that the government over here handled it all rather badly, however the rub is that despite that, they still handled it better than trump.

Slow down, Alex. You are confusing yourself again. I'll allow you to note when Trump's FDA had approved the Pfizer vaccine for distribution as well as when Biden first took the vaccine as well as his second dose. I'm sorry, Alex, for speaking too fast here. I had forgotten who I was talking to here for a second. 

[indianasmith]

Good God . . . just shaking my head in furious disbelief now.
I have a FB friend that I bat politics back and forth with a good bit, usually all in good fun.
But he's started posting anti-vaccine propaganda almost every day now, and I called him out on it, telling him that kind of misinformation is killing people right now.  He is SO distrustful of our government that he said "he'd rather die of COVID than take the shot."
And the thing is, he's a fireman/EMT who has responded to 200 COVID calls!  But he's so far down the conspiracy rabbit hole that he honestly believes the vaccine is a government plot to kill people, and would rather slowly asphyxiate as the virus destroys his lungs rather than get a simple shot in the arm.

I get that the country is politically divided right now, but . . .  HOW CAN ANYBODY BE THAT F***ING STUPID???????