COVID-19 Rant

[Jim H]

Good News, according to this headline: https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/u-s-new-coronavirus-infections-slow-to-lowest-level-in-more-than-two-months/ar-BB18zSxj?ocid=msedgdhp

U.S. New Coronavirus Infections Slow to Lowest Level in More Than Two Months

I'm very curious how the schools opening up in a lot of places will change this.  It always lags a bit - that is, the slowdown now reflects stuff that was happening more than two weeks ago.  That means we won't really know the full story with how schools opening changed things probably until closer to the end of the month or even October.  Kids are far less likely to be made seriously ill, but they can still spread it to their parents, grandparents, teachers, administrators, etc, very easily.

[zelmo73]

Good News, according to this headline: https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/u-s-new-coronavirus-infections-slow-to-lowest-level-in-more-than-two-months/ar-BB18zSxj?ocid=msedgdhp

U.S. New Coronavirus Infections Slow to Lowest Level in More Than Two Months

Good COVID-19 news is not allowed until after the November election. 

[VenomX73]

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[lester1/2jr]

appears this thing is drawing to a close

[Jim H]

appears this thing is drawing to a close

Not yet.  The hot spots have declined for sure, but other places are going up, averaging it out to be basically flat.  It's also likely we'll see somewhat of a spike (though not as big as the previous ones, my guess) in the next few weeks due to Labor Day spread, especially the handful of states that looked primed for it - like my own, Missouri, where the growth of new cases is currently still a lot worse than it was during the initial spike (about twice as many new daily cases as of now).

It's also possible that as outdoor activities become less tenable due to weather change and people do more things indoors in groups, this might make spread worse, as it does for flus during flu season.  But we don't know yet exactly how people will behave with COVID19, so that's an educated guess.

[Trevor]

I haven't been physically at work since March 25 this year: got a text this afternoon letting me know that by the end of next week (around the 17th) we will be back at work, which is a relief because this working from home thing (I do work, I do get work and I do get paid) is starting to p**s me off.

[RCMerchant]

2 of the workers at the nursing home  where Tiana works tested positive for Covid 19. So their on lockdown again. She has to suit up every day.

[zelmo73]

appears this thing is drawing to a close

6% actual COVID-19 deaths in the U.S., according to the CDC. Looks like one big gigantic clickbait just like Obama's b.s. ebola scare flop from 2014.

[RCMerchant]

appears this thing is drawing to a close

6% actual COVID-19 deaths in the U.S., according to the CDC. Looks like one big gigantic clickbait just like Obama's b.s. ebola scare flop from 2014.

Nobody died form Ebola in the USA. Not one person. 189,538 people have died from Covid 19. Looks like Obama did a better job of containing it, eh? It's not a very good analogy.

[Jim H]

appears this thing is drawing to a close

6% actual COVID-19 deaths in the U.S., according to the CDC. Looks like one big gigantic clickbait just like Obama's b.s. ebola scare flop from 2014.

It's 6% having no other conditions or causes.  You're effectively stating someone having things like respiratory failure listed as one of their causes of death, while dying from a harsh flu like disease that contributes to respiratory failure, didn't actually die from the flu like disease that is *also* listed as a cause of death.  Do you now understand why that doesn't make sense?

[zelmo73]

appears this thing is drawing to a close

6% actual COVID-19 deaths in the U.S., according to the CDC. Looks like one big gigantic clickbait just like Obama's b.s. ebola scare flop from 2014.

It's 6% having no other conditions or causes.  You're effectively stating someone having things like respiratory failure listed as one of their causes of death, while dying from a harsh flu like disease that contributes to respiratory failure, didn't actually die from the flu like disease that is *also* listed as a cause of death.  Do you now understand why that doesn't make sense?

George Floyd had COVID-19 when he died too. So you're essentially saying that he died from COVID-19 and not the four times lethal doses of fentanyl that he swallowed in a lame-a$$ed attempt to hide it from the arresting cops. Yeah, I like your logic much better. 

[Rev. Powell]

Maybe a simpler way to explain it:

"What the CDC published shows that 6% of coronavirus deaths were from COVID-19 alone while the other 94% of deaths had underlying factors, and while the percentages are true, it doesn't mean the 6% is the real COVID-19 death count. It means those are the only deaths where patients had no other pre-existing conditions."

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/09/03/trust-index-is-the-cdc-exaggerating-the-number-of-americans-killed-by-covid-19/

E.g., someone who has, say, asthma has an underlying condition (co-morbidity) that makes COVID fatal for them, whereas the same infection might not kill a perfectly healthy person. In every death listed as a COVID death, COVID is the primary cause of death. People with underlying health conditions are more at risk, but that's not different than any other illness.

[pacman000]

appears this thing is drawing to a close

6% actual COVID-19 deaths in the U.S., according to the CDC. Looks like one big gigantic clickbait just like Obama's b.s. ebola scare flop from 2014.

Nobody died form Ebola in the USA. Not one person. 189,538 people have died from Covid 19. Looks like Obama did a better job of containing it, eh? It's not a very good analogy.

Someone in the U.S. did die from Ebola: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Eric_Duncan

Ebola, tho horrible & frightening, is easier to control than other diseases, since you usually have to come into contact with infected bodily fluids to catch it.

[zelmo73]

Maybe a simpler way to explain it:

"What the CDC published shows that 6% of coronavirus deaths were from COVID-19 alone while the other 94% of deaths had underlying factors, and while the percentages are true, it doesn't mean the 6% is the real COVID-19 death count. It means those are the only deaths where patients had no other pre-existing conditions."

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/09/03/trust-index-is-the-cdc-exaggerating-the-number-of-americans-killed-by-covid-19/

E.g., someone who has, say, asthma has an underlying condition (co-morbidity) that makes COVID fatal for them, whereas the same infection might not kill a perfectly healthy person. In every death listed as a COVID death, COVID is the primary cause of death. People with underlying health conditions are more at risk, but that's not different than any other illness.

It's weird how the 1.1% death rate for the U.S. hasn't changed from last year to this year though.

[Rev. Powell]

Maybe a simpler way to explain it:

"What the CDC published shows that 6% of coronavirus deaths were from COVID-19 alone while the other 94% of deaths had underlying factors, and while the percentages are true, it doesn't mean the 6% is the real COVID-19 death count. It means those are the only deaths where patients had no other pre-existing conditions."

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/09/03/trust-index-is-the-cdc-exaggerating-the-number-of-americans-killed-by-covid-19/

E.g., someone who has, say, asthma has an underlying condition (co-morbidity) that makes COVID fatal for them, whereas the same infection might not kill a perfectly healthy person. In every death listed as a COVID death, COVID is the primary cause of death. People with underlying health conditions are more at risk, but that's not different than any other illness.

It's weird how the 1.1% death rate for the U.S. hasn't changed from last year to this year though.

196,000 people have died from COVID in the U.S. There are 328 million people in the U.S. For the death rate to increase by %0.1, 328,000 people would have to die.